• flan [they/them]@hexbear.net
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    Oh sure let’s talk about LGBTQ rights and Women’s rights shall we. Under which president was Roe v. Wade struck down? Under which president have abortion bans in many states popped up with complete inaction from the federal government? Under which president have anti-trans laws popped up with complete inaction from the federal government?

    My expectations of Trump is we will have a buffoonish worsening of the current conditions of the world. Under Biden we will have a cynical worsening of current conditions. Am I priveleged? Yes, I live in the imperial core. I live in a blue state. I have a stable job. But don’t think for a second that I can’t see what’s happening around me.

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      Under which president was Roe v. Wade struck down?

      This one.

      And who put the Federalist Society justices in place who struck it down? Oh, that’s right. Donald fucking Trump.

      Under which president have abortion bans in many states popped up with complete inaction from the federal government? Under which president have anti-trans laws popped up with complete inaction from the federal government?

      This one.

      What powers do you think they have? Laws are struck down by the judiciary, which we’ve already established has been captured, thanks to Trump.

      Here’s a question for you: who has been enacting those laws? What is the nature of the legislature in those cases?

      None of your gripes here are Biden’s fault, unless you’re wishing he’d be more authoritarian (fuck that). Trump is 100% to blame for the current state of the law, and helping him get reelected isn’t going to help LGBTQ people or women’s rights.

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        And who put the Federalist Society justices in place who struck it down? Oh, that’s right. Donald fucking Trump.

        Joe Biden had more to do with Clarence Thomas being on the court than any republican

        And what did Biden do in response to Roe being struck down? Oh, that’s right. He made statements about how he’s against abortion.

        What powers do you think they have?

        Executive power, dummy. The actual power to do what he wants to do with federal resources. The court only has the power to talk about what he does after the fact.

        unless you’re wishing he’d be more authoritarian (fuck that)

        LMAO WELL THEN SHUT THE FUCK UP IF YOU DON’T WANT YOUR POLITICIANS TO EXERCISE AUTHORITY DIPSHIT

        Why are you pretending to give a shit about politics in the first place??

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          That’s not how executive powers work, unless you want him to be more authoritarian.

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            1. That’s exactly how executive powers work you historically illiterate liberal

            2. Shut the fuck up and stop pretending you care about anyone’s lives or social outcomes if doing anything is a dealbreaker for you

            3. Please for the love of god learn what pain is after getting hit in the head over and over so many times.

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              You didn’t have to descend to name calling, but you did. The fact that you did that instead of bringing actual arguments tells me all I need to know about how informed you are.

              Welcome to my block list. Spend less time online.

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            so he seems to be authoritarian enough to bypass congress to send billions of dollars of baby killing devices to Israel but not authoritarian enough to try and stop the litany of fascism laws across the country.

            Have you considered that maybe Joe “I do not view abortion as a choice and a right, I think it’s always a tragedy” Biden just doesn’t care all too much about women’s reproductive rights, and that Joe “Were there not an Israel, the United States of America would have to invent an Israel to protect her interest in the region” Biden also really wants to unwaveringly support Israel.

            The reason he doesn’t put up any more than a token effort to resist the rise of fascism in america (and in fact is actively expanding presidential powers and the power of the state to suppress political dissent) is that he doesnt care about fascism. If he did care about fascism then why is he prioritising supporting fascism in israel so much that he’s going to throw the election to the fascist party by completely alienating the same muslim voters who won him the election in 2020?

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        Trump is not to blame for the state of the law. The Democrats have had many chances over the years to protect the rights that the Republicans have said out loud, for decades, that they will remove. Time and time again they did not prioritize it. Biden was a senator and then vice president and then president during these opportunities.

        None of your gripes here are Biden’s fault

        Yes they are absolutely his fault. He has been deeply involved in the highest levels of government for decades.

        unless you’re wishing he’d be more authoritarian (fuck that).

        You don’t think throwing teenage girls in prison for getting an abortion after being raped is authortarian? How privileged to be able to say that freedoms should be fought for based on your personal opinion of the right way of doing it.

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          I don’t think we share a common view of reality. You seem to be under the impression that State laws are Biden’s fault, and his inability to prevent them is also his fault. I don’t share that opinion, as I don’t see the facts leading to that conclusion.

          I think it’s not worth continuing this conversation. Have a good day. See you at the polls.

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        None of your gripes here are Biden’s fault, unless you’re wishing he’d be more authoritarian (fuck that)

        Your ideology calls it authoritarian to not give free-reign to unelected judges with lifetime appointments. You’re a joke.