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    Israel aimed to spark a regional conflict to avoid facing genocide allegations. However, Iran didn’t buy into their PR tactics.

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      that’s is basically Israel strategy. Don’t know on what ground you’re getting downvoted.

      Israel wants to involve the US into the conflict, to create the perceptive diversion when it moves into Rafah and continue towards their goals. However, Iran took the necessary steps, e.g. informing the US in advance their course of actions, so that the US won’t be forced into the conflict.

      That’s basically what happened. The US keep themselves out, Iran gets to retaliate while keeping a distance from the US, and Israel will be on their own should it moves forward to Rafah.

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        Exactly. I’m waiting for the ICJ ruling that will hold Israel and its allies accountable for genocide. Israel was never about Jews. It’s funny Jews standing for Palestine get called antisemitic pathetic!

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          yes but see if youre anti genocide that’s antisemitic. yes maybe youre a rabbi, but maybe you should just be a little less self hating, you know? I bet youve never even tasted a decent bagel.

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      yeah, Iran being the fucking heroes here. generally fuck that government, but they’re the only adults in the extremely apocalyptic room. at least adolescents who know how to babysit?

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      What group currently calling Jihad against Israel has not openly recieved funding from the Iranian state, going back to 1992?

      The answer is none. Every group calling for Jihad and Jewish genocide in the region has received monetary support from Iran.

      Why is that?

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        if the kapostanis stopped saying every Jew is aligned with them, or people stopped listening to them, I’m sure there would be a lot less antisemitism.

        the problem is the Zionist genocide orcs. its always the Zionist genocide orcs scrawling 'protocols of the elders og zionc fan art on our maps, then defending themselves from the things they’re doing from the boom they’re using as a checklist by saying we’re just accusing them because its in an old dumb czarist book. which they’re using as a checklist.

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          Woah there buddy, I think you mistook me as somebody interested in unintelligible rants.

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        Because Israel and Iran are enemies and have been in a state of semi-war for ages? And because Israel is an Apartheid state whose raison d’etre is ethnic cleansing?

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          So Iran can fund jihad against Judaism itself, and it’s Israel’s fault?

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            Talking about the “initial fault” in this conflict is moot. We’re at a point, where both sides can reasonably point to some events in the past and blame the other side for the conflict.

            Fact is, Iran is a theocratic dictatorship and its allies are religious fanatic militias, while Israel is a liberal democracy, supported by pretty much all of The West™. Of course the expectations towards Israel regarding human rights and international law are slightly higher. And let’s be honest, what Israel is doing right now is certainly not helping calming the situation, or even making long term peace.

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              I don’t know if I fully buy that argument.

              If somebody supports Israel, they are supporting a genocide based on perceived land needs of the Israeli people.

              If somebody supports Palestine, they are supporting a genocide based on the outright extermination of the Jewish people, funded by Iran and Qatar.

              I don’t think we can get anywhere unless all of us as leftists acknowledge that the Jews of Israel will be in the same position the people of Palestine are in right now if we don’t thread the needle of support and guess what? We are not fucking threading that needle.

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                If somebody supports Palestine, they are supporting a genocide based on the outright extermination of the Jewish people, funded by Iran and Qatar.

                What? No significant player in Palestine is trying to do that.

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                  If we pretend the “elected” government of Palestine is in significant than sure.

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                    Uh… Hamas has tried to make peace with Israel before. Multiple times. Including two attempts to hand over Gaza to the PA and start peace negotiations. Israel has refused all of them.