• WamGams@lemmy.ca
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    7 months ago

    I don’t know if I fully buy that argument.

    If somebody supports Israel, they are supporting a genocide based on perceived land needs of the Israeli people.

    If somebody supports Palestine, they are supporting a genocide based on the outright extermination of the Jewish people, funded by Iran and Qatar.

    I don’t think we can get anywhere unless all of us as leftists acknowledge that the Jews of Israel will be in the same position the people of Palestine are in right now if we don’t thread the needle of support and guess what? We are not fucking threading that needle.

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      7 months ago

      If somebody supports Palestine, they are supporting a genocide based on the outright extermination of the Jewish people, funded by Iran and Qatar.

      What? No significant player in Palestine is trying to do that.

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        7 months ago

        If we pretend the “elected” government of Palestine is in significant than sure.

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          7 months ago

          Uh… Hamas has tried to make peace with Israel before. Multiple times. Including two attempts to hand over Gaza to the PA and start peace negotiations. Israel has refused all of them.

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              7 months ago

              Uh… They are? Hamas has stated what they consider an acceptable ceasefire by listing their bare minimum “if we don’t get this there’s no point” demands and Israel keeps rejecting them. It’s Israel refusing to compromise here.

              Also you ignored my reply.

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                7 months ago

                Uhm… No.

                Hamas rejected the last ceasefire because they won’t hand over 40 hostages.

                At least keep current of the news if you are pretending you care.

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                    7 months ago

                    If Hamas cared about their people (they don’t. That has been clear for 20 years), they would accept a cease fire, which only requires they give back the hostages.