• Bourff@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Metal bands are mostly nazis? Is that the news “satanic scare” like we had in the 80’s?

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        Lol, a lot of those names are a little too on the nose. I mean Kristalnacht and Infernall SS? Can’t imagine making a wrong assumption on those

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          That’s why I stay away from these labels. Not against them, but I can’t tell what is what.

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              Pfff

              When I used to have time to figure that out Metallica and Megadeth were still in their good phase, with 4 albums each. And no internet. There was like heavy metal, death, and eventually Nord or something. And these would cover any bands.

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                Sounds like trash and speed existed as well in your time. Black perhaps too, not sure if I’m remembering history well.

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                  It certainly existed as a style, but not sure as a name. At least in my circles we didn’t call them that.

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        This is a tiny portion of black metal in a sub genre . But it isn’t surprising that an extreme genre with a strong counter culture doesn’t have some extreme spin-offs.

        Also you can tell which bands are in NSBM because they are all terrible at actually making music.

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        Of course there are nazis bands, especially I’m black metal. But that’s a minority, and they generally suck anyway. But I’m not into BM at all personally, so I don’t bother tbh.

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      It’s not a majority, but it is a higher risk factor. Especially when Sweden/Finland produce a lot of metal bands and are also a higher risk factor for nazi sympathy - by and large they certainly don’t idealize them but they also aren’t always vilified to the same level as you might expect elsewhere

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        Nazis are absolutely vilified in Sweden and Finland, I have no idea what you’re talking about. I’d say NSBM bands is a lot more prevalent in Eastern Europe and Russia.

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        Yeah, and the aggression in music easily syncs with literal agreccion of the third reich, so it’s a low-hanging fruit if you don’t have other ideas for music and songs. Lemme try:
        Panzer death
        Panzer death
        Blood soaked brothers march
        Panzer death
        Panzer death
        Glory to our patriarch

        bonus points for samples of machinegun added to drums, lyrics in German, bandmembers photographed in pseudo-nazi uniform, etc.

        Some idiots will listen that on repeat in no time

        Edit: Listen to Hanzel und Gretel - SS Deathstar Supergalaktik, it covers most of the the cliches

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        It’s also something that’s more related to some genres of music than others. It’s definitely a much bigger issue in metal than you would find in, say, jazz or electronica. On the other hand, it’s more overt than the kind of Nazis you find in country music, and they get much more publicized.

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          It’s definitely a much bigger issue in metal than you would find in, say, jazz or electronica.

          For a while, and I assume it continues today, there was/is a synth subgenre called fashwave, a Nazi-adjacent take on vaporwave. I imagine they have a niche elsewhere in the electro scene, and prob. industrial too?

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          jazz or electronica.

          Gabber pretty much inherited all the Nazis Punks threw out of concerts and are, to their credit, also not terribly unlikely to throw them out of concerts. There’s definitely infiltration going on when it comes to Dark Techno. When it comes to Jazz it shouldn’t be too terribly fucking surprising that white supremacists don’t like it. It was outlawed in the Third Reich, though they also produced their own for foreign propaganda purposes.

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            It was outlawed in the Third Reich, though they also produced their own for foreign propaganda purposes.

            Funny, I replied to someone else saying almost the exact same thing, but I couldn’t remember the name of Charlie and his Orchestra. Thanks.

            Someone else told me about the electronica thing earlier and I shouldn’t have been surprised.