• ryepunk [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      3 months ago

      And Reddit libs are arguing that if the countries keep the policies they’ve passed we’ll be kept to 2.4-3C degrees of warming. Like that isn’t over a billion dead from climate shifts.

      It also completely ignores the fact that the policies may be passed, but most western countries only passed laws but aren’t actually doing anything to meet them. The lib god in Reddit threads then citation bombs dissenters with articles that say the same thing, we’re fuck if we don’t actually do something beyond say we’re going to do something.

      Meanwhile china is the only country actually pushing action and doing something and it’s crickets from the west except to scold china for hurting the Wests shitty economy.

  • Thordros [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    There’s nothing to worry about. We set up the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change at the Rio Earth Summit in 1992. And we also signed on to the Kyoto Protocol in 1997, and it took effect in 2005. Then we set up the Paris Climate Accords in 2015, which has solved the problem for mega serious this time. Surely everybody fixed it by now. Right?

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    I really hope that somebody is compiling all of this so Ina couple years when libs immediatly switch from pretending we should be doing something to trying to say nobody knew it was going to be this bad we can just point to a list of reports like “Here’s where we told you you had two years left, here’s where we told you you had 5 years left, here’s where we told you you had 10 years left, here’s the one for 20 years oh and look at that they were all right”

    Because it’s really starting to feel like to only meaningless benefit of actually caring about climate change for 30 years is being able to pull off a three decades long “we told you so”

    At which point I’m sure liberals will say it’s our fault for not working harder to make them be better

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      We need to compile all this not for the libs (because they’re not going to care anyway), but for agitation purposes. We go around in endless circles here about how we actually do agitation and movement building in the west when the deck is so stacked against us. Personally, I think climate change - and the inability of capitalist “democracy” to be able or even willing to address it - needs to be a big part of that agitation. Young people are genuinely desponded about climate change. We need to be out there identifying how capitalism in particular lead to climate change and how as long capitalism is the dominant form of social organization on earth, we will never actually address climate change.

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        You’re right but also “as long capitalism is the dominant form of social organization on earth, we will never actually address climate change.” Deffinitly doesn’t make me less despondent