I find this quite interesting. For a liberal, “Facts” are indisputable things they agree with, and anyone who honestly disagrees with them is always just “misinformed” and refuses to accept the “Facts.” There’s no discussion of a topic, no understanding, no nuance, no contextualisation, there are “facts” and there is “disinformation” and if you aren’t on team liberal, you are automatically being pumped full of disinformation by nefarious third parties.
They certainly ignore inconvenient facts. Just tonight Chris Hayes mentioned the “draconian abortion bill in Arizona” and he said “The Democrats want to Restore Roe” but he conveniently didn’t explain how they would actually accomplish that in the real world. He might as well and the payrolls of the DNC and DCCC and getting fat checks from them.
As far as I’m concerned - even though it involves potential future situations - it’s a fact that after the election if the dems are in power - the first step in restoring Roe must be some kind of radical judicial overhaul before they pass a “Restore Roe” law. If the dems don’t do that overhaul first but pass a law anyway - the GOP justices will simply say the law is unconstitutional.
But libs keep lying to themselves, lying to each other, and lying to the world that there’s some kind of magic where “Restoring Roe” can happen without the overhaul. It drives me insane.
Inconvienient facts aren’t Capital F “Facts” though, they’re disinformation. It’s a binary, it either supports their worldview (and is therefore a Fact) or it doesn’t (and is therefore disinformation).
And they smugly love to tell us how misinformed we are because we try to understand all the relevant information, not just the parts that we already agree with.
The only big right-wing account I know of at Bluesky is Tom Nichols. He has 22k followers because he’s an anti-Trump guy who has appeared on MSNBC. Despite having a surprisingly large number of followers at a lib site - I was amused to see that he also has ~1,500 people blocking him. Libs can find him to be very tedious because his “my way or the highway” POV is different from their own.
I knew Bluesky would be liberal. But I have to admit that I didn’t think it would be a lib playground where a lot of people would be as bad as the “We’re right - YOU ARE WRONG” hivemind redditor mindset of r/politics. Even liberal intellectuals like Adam Serwer say stuff that makes me laugh.
Barack Obama presided over the largest expansion of the welfare state since Lyndon Johnson.
Look, voters were smart enough about democracy to give the democrats a veto-proof majority. However - the filibuster still exists and Senators Asshole, Stymied, and Neolib just aren’t onboard with the plans to codify Roe. That’s the reality right now. But what Biden can do is sign an executive order that sets aspirational goals on abortion so that…
One thing republicans get right is their party are all on board with their stated goals. The only reason you wouldn’t be aiming for that is because you want to be controlled opposition so you can fundraise.
You can’t even show them the shifting narrative on things they believe in. Take masking during COVID for example. Fauchi was their God and he was caught lying how many times?
I find this quite interesting. For a liberal, “Facts” are indisputable things they agree with, and anyone who honestly disagrees with them is always just “misinformed” and refuses to accept the “Facts.” There’s no discussion of a topic, no understanding, no nuance, no contextualisation, there are “facts” and there is “disinformation” and if you aren’t on team liberal, you are automatically being pumped full of disinformation by nefarious third parties.
They certainly ignore inconvenient facts. Just tonight Chris Hayes mentioned the “draconian abortion bill in Arizona” and he said “The Democrats want to Restore Roe” but he conveniently didn’t explain how they would actually accomplish that in the real world. He might as well and the payrolls of the DNC and DCCC and getting fat checks from them.
As far as I’m concerned - even though it involves potential future situations - it’s a fact that after the election if the dems are in power - the first step in restoring Roe must be some kind of radical judicial overhaul before they pass a “Restore Roe” law. If the dems don’t do that overhaul first but pass a law anyway - the GOP justices will simply say the law is unconstitutional.
But libs keep lying to themselves, lying to each other, and lying to the world that there’s some kind of magic where “Restoring Roe” can happen without the overhaul. It drives me insane.
Inconvienient facts aren’t Capital F “Facts” though, they’re disinformation. It’s a binary, it either supports their worldview (and is therefore a Fact) or it doesn’t (and is therefore disinformation).
And they smugly love to tell us how misinformed we are because we try to understand all the relevant information, not just the parts that we already agree with.
The only big right-wing account I know of at Bluesky is Tom Nichols. He has 22k followers because he’s an anti-Trump guy who has appeared on MSNBC. Despite having a surprisingly large number of followers at a lib site - I was amused to see that he also has ~1,500 people blocking him. Libs can find him to be very tedious because his “my way or the highway” POV is different from their own.
I knew Bluesky would be liberal. But I have to admit that I didn’t think it would be a lib playground where a lot of people would be as bad as the “We’re right - YOU ARE WRONG” hivemind redditor mindset of r/politics. Even liberal intellectuals like Adam Serwer say stuff that makes me laugh.
In that thread he also acts as a Biden apologist on abortion as he always does. Sad.
Deep down they know there is no such thing as true objectivity, but it’s a wonderful cudgel to keep “progressive” Dems in line.
I hope libs get their veto proof majority and sitting president just so they can finally see that it won’t make a difference.
Look, voters were smart enough about democracy to give the democrats a veto-proof majority. However - the filibuster still exists and Senators Asshole, Stymied, and Neolib just aren’t onboard with the plans to codify Roe. That’s the reality right now. But what Biden can do is sign an executive order that sets aspirational goals on abortion so that…
One thing republicans get right is their party are all on board with their stated goals. The only reason you wouldn’t be aiming for that is because you want to be controlled opposition so you can fundraise.
The whole thing makes me sick.
Then the Dems will rationalize it by saying
Even though Republicans always do, even when they’re not in power
You can’t even show them the shifting narrative on things they believe in. Take masking during COVID for example. Fauchi was their God and he was caught lying how many times?