I heard there are problems with psychiatric help in USA, but I wasn’t aware it was this bad.
Oh, man, you have no idea.
Look up the Pentecostals for a good time, and then keep in mind they’re considered mainstream.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentecostalism
Also:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snake_handling_in_Christianity
Please, anyone who reads this, stop posting links to the mobile version of Wikipedia. It doesn’t switch automatically on PC, and I see it happen all the time. Just take the half a second to remove the “.m” from the beginning of the link, save everyone else from the pain of having to be surprised by it and taking the time to do it themselves.
No. Stop being a self-entitled, lazy slug. They got the resource for you. If it’s not good enough for you, either fix it for your use case or don’t click it at all.
It takes just as little time to remove the .m. yourself, maybe even less.
I myself do indeed remove the .m.s from my links out of politeness, but it is impolite to demand that others do this.
IMO demand implies stronger language than I was using, my intention was to simply make a request of anyone that encountered my message. I’ve only started making this request because this happening is something I’ve noticed happen for literal years, and I want to raise awareness about it, hopefully get others to notice and not make this mistake. Honestly I think the perfect solution would be for Wikipedia to implement a fix on their end, but I have no idea how to go about making a request of them like that.
Probably more users on mobile than PC and anyway it’s super easy to do what you’re asking with m+kb
The reason I ask to remove the .m out of consideration for PC users is because it actually does correct itself on mobile. It’s not a symmetrically degraded experience, it’s only worse for PC users. And yes, it’s an easy fix with kbm, but respectfully, it should also be easy for the original poster to fix it themself.
Makes sense, didn’t realize it autocorrected on mobile.
Exactly. When you’re on mobile, the website will check and automatically switch you to the mobile version. If you’re on desktop and click a mobile link, that switch doesn’t happen, and everything is giant font and wide margins. The assumption is that desktop is still the default means of viewing. And when inserting a link from mobile, it’s not that hard to delete the m.
Some mobile interfaces really are terrible for trying to navigate to a precise part in the middle of a link to change it. It’s way easier with a keyboard and mouse. Better yet, desktop browsers tend to have a lot more availability of browser extensions than mobile browsers and I would be really surprised if there weren’t already extensions out there that will automatically correct this problem for desktop users and forward them to the correct version of the page. Wikipedia really should fix this issue though.
Not for nothing, but speaking in tongues is demonstrably bullshit. It’s been studied linguistically and neurologically, and been found to be wholly non-miraculous.
Has anything been found to be miraculous?
Sadly, only Miracle Whip has passed the scientific tests to legally be called miraculous.
Miracle Max was also pretty miraculous
Just don’t rush him, you don’t want rotten miracles.
Its got the creamy/tangy in spades
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Octopi. Miraculous little creatures
Well, no. Plenty of things have been, and still are, unexplained, but that doesn’t mean they violate the laws of nature. It just means our understanding of those laws is incomplete.
Like 3,000 years ago, a total eclipse would have seemed miraculous, but people of the time just had not yet mapped orbits and the planets.
In this case, glossolalia is a phenomenon that has been well-studied and found to be entirely mundane. They are not speaking foreign languages they had never heard before, they are not speaking new languages, they are not making phonemes that they have not heard before. Anyone can learn to speak in tongues, even if they do not believe in the spirituality of it. Neurologically, someone speaking in tongues is fully conscious and totally in control.
There are no cases of spontaneous glossolalia in groups that are not familiar with the experience.
It’s weird, for sure. The people doing it seem to sincerely believe they are doing something. And there’s no correlation to neurological conditions or mental illness. Functional MRI exams show that it isn’t always controlled by the same part of the brain responsible for speech.
It just seems like people can learn to convince themselves that they have the magic power to talk weird and believe that they are channeling some supernatural power. They are not channeling any supernatural power, they are just making weird noises.
Quite a lot actually, through rigorous examination by the Catholic church.
Ladybug and Cat Noir.
Wonder Bread was in the running, back in the 60s.
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Well, there’s a jellyfish capable of immortality. It’s as close as anyone is likely to get to a miracle in the real world.
There are a lot of aspects of the world that are wonderful, can’t yet be explained, and maybe don’t even need explanation to be worshiped and enjoyed. Religion is just a means to make sense of these parts of our cosmos (I myself am a complete atheist, but have friends whose lives have been definitely enriched by finding religion). The problems arise when manipulative people codify these beliefs into regimented systems of control. That creates an incentive to coerce others to follow the same beliefs. That in turn leads to religions beginning to be shaped by a kind of memetic survival of the fittest. Some religions try to short-cut the hard work of having actually good ideas that improve people’s lives, by instead coercing people into beliefs that maximize birth rate and reduce individual thought.
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Yes they have misinterpreted the Bible, but also they don’t seem to be liars. Their faith appears to be entirely sincere, and there’s no evidence they are lying. From the outside, they look as serious as every other Christian, which is to say it’s all ridiculous.
I don’t want to make assumptions about you, but your point is the sort of “no true Scotsman” argument Christians like to make about the “other” Christians they don’t agree with. Believers can see and point out the flaws in the beliefs of others, but all religions are down in the same irrational hole.
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Just because you find it ridiculous doesn’t mean that they aren’t sincere. You’re assuming that people cannot convince themselves of a delusion so hard that they fully believe it.
Consider Catholics who believe that wine and bread turn to blood and flesh when blessed by a priest, or Young Earth Creationists who reject the whole of modern science because their holy scripture says that the earth is less than 10,000 years old, or faith healers, or people who pray for miracles, or people who believe in ghosts, or a global flood, or the stories of Adam and Eve, or a burning bush passing down commandments, or that Moses brought plagues to free the Jewish slaves in Egypt, or that Christ was born of a virgin and rose from the dead. All of those beliefs are equally irrational.
It doesn’t matter at all if their interpretation of the Bible contradicts with your interpretation of the Bible, because the Bible is not a source of literal truth. It contains many demonstrably false statements, and a myriad of contradictory statements. Even as a source of allegorical morality tales, the Bible is lacking by any modern standard.
You think they are ridiculous. Matthew 7:3
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All of the beliefs I listed are demonstrably false, and anyone promoting them really ought to know better. There are hucksters who promote lies, and there are true believers that promote delusions. Speaking in tongues is equally valid, and equally supported by the Bible as anything else I listed. People who speak in tongues have undergone fMRI testing, and neurologically speaking, there’s no evidence they are lying. They are vocalizing without sctivating the speach center of their brains. It’s weird, but it’s not magic.
I understand you don’t like the truth, but all magical thinking is the same. You want to look down on other people who have different beliefs than you. You want them to be stupid, because their ideas are so obviously false. You believe your interpretation of your holy scripture is the correct one, because that is the comforting idea that keeps away the existential fear of oblivion.
Think about how arrogant that sounds to an outsider.
It seems like a delusion of grandeur. A mental illness.
Isn’t that most religions? You have the sacred knowledge of the divine will of the creator and ultimate judge of the Universe, who is also your close personal friend. You telepathically communicate, and He tells you that everything you already think is correct. Whatever happens in your lifetime, you’re going to hang out with Him behind the velvet rope in the afterlife while all of your enemies are tortured for eternity.
Yeah, for some it’s a crutch that helps them through difficult times so it’s not all bad but largely I agree
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Matt 6:5-8 “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.
It sure seems like an attention seeking parade.
It’d be nice if they would read their own text and get back in the closet. I agree with the poster up there - if it’s truly a sacred thing, this sickening display would absolutely sully the whole thing.
I think that preacher screaming about gays and liberals did a lot of damage way back when (used in the trailer for The God Who Wasn’t There). Pretty sure that was around the time the xtianists made a conscious movement to ally themselves with politics to forge a theocracy.
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Do people not realize that “speaking in tongues” was just 1611 language’s way of saying “they spoke in one language but everyone heard them in their own language”? It literally said that in the passage. Anyone who performs “speaking in tongues” in the “modern way” is lying to you about believing in their religion and about taking it seriously.
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Honestly thats a semi believable part of the bible. Hear a language enough and ya kinda start to get ahold of it. Mind you it requires a base to work with, but given the whole Rome thing I suspect ya could pick up quite a bit at a market or port. Hell Ive experienced it myself, ive on multiple occasions have read Dutch or a Nordic language only to realize I dont know said language and promptly cant read it anymore.
I also watched a Dutch candle making video, that was a weird day overall though.
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My favorite part is that I’ve been an atheist for 8 years and can still speak in tongues. If it were what they say it is, I’d have lost the ability to long ago.
But every single time I have ever seen it done publicly, like this (and even in some churches) it has been a circus sideshow and a mess
Hey! As a circus sideshow performer, I’d like you to know most of us are professional about what we do and running a show requires a shit ton of coordination
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Now that’s the face of Women’s Health.
As usual.
Holy shit. It 100% looks like a satanic summoming is taking place based on the video.
What is wrong with these people? Get help!
As someone mentioned two weeks ago, we don’t have an official language. They should actually set their rules in Santanic gibberish since they’ll mean squat in the end when people finally get the courage to ignore them.
Something something separation of church and state
Well said.
He should be removed from office. He is not well.
Your elected officials. They should be hauled off in straight jackets.
For the xtian taliban to get a better idea of how normal America views snake-handling bullshit like this, they should imagine if this were a bunch of Muslims with their rugs out and praying in the same spot.
That video. Wow.
Reminds me of the chants in the game Control https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOI-uY7m-Og
This timeline is getting to be absolutely ridiculous.
What happened to the separation of church and state?
He is also known for sponsoring a Senate bill, which recently passed, that would permit the Ten Commandments to be recited aloud in public schools.
Is this that indoctrination Republicans have been screaming about not wanting in schools? I guess it’s OK if it’s their particular brand of indoctrination.
May the Lord open
Under his eye.
Blessed be the fruit
Remember when the right spent so much time, even all the way into 2022, gaslighting that people are being hysterical and over the top to talk about Gilead states?
Of course they were dirty liars.
So I guess it’s now ok for groups of Muslims to pray together to the east on the Senate floor, satanic temple would line up behind them, oh and don’t forget about sacrificing of goats to Thor and Odin while we’re at it. I guess all that is ok now …right Arizona? Right?
Why is it always republicans.
