• jsomae
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      “The holocaust was also a carefully considered plan” is a fully-general rebuttal to any carefully considered plan.

      A move like this will definitely decrease the suffering of people who lack functioning kidneys. It will not affect the suffering poor and desperate.

      Obviously, we should abolish capitalism entirely, because capitalism causes suffering. I’m not advocating for capitalism here.

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        It will not affect the suffering poor and desperate.

        you realize that hundreds of poor and desperate people would die from this procedure if this saw mass adoption right? Even if relatively safe it is a MAJOR procedure, and carries risk of death or complications.

        You would condemn them to die?

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          They should be well informed. The risk of dying is around one in ten thousand – less than the risk of death giving birth.

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            and there are MILLIONS of desperate people for whom 50k would be immensely tempting

            I also don’t think we should exploit desperate people as surrogates, so idk how that affects anything that is also not a good thing

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              …and they wouldn’t get a penny from donating their kidney under this system. Desperately poor people don’t benefit from tax credits.

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                Weren’t we talkin about payments of 50k? If its actually, no joke, for real, 50k in tax credits, this is a worthless gambit

                there are so few people for whom 50k in TAX CREDITS maters in the slightest

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                  It’s tax credits, yes. I see the source of confusion now.