• Rivalarrival@lemmy.today
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    9 months ago

    I answered your question, at length. You skipped over the first sentence in my lengthy response.

    There is a distinct possibility that God exists. There’s another distinct possibility…

    The likelihood that the Abrahamic god exists is equal to the likelihood that the Principal Investigator god exists, and if it turns out that those two are one and the same, you are responsible for annihilating all existence.

    I have no reason to believe either of these scenarios is true, but both are distinctly possible.

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          9 months ago

          I very directly asked a question and your answer was not an answer. Your opinions are really not interesting enough for me to keep asking over and over.

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              9 months ago

              It was a simple question, if you dont want to give a clear answer, that is your decision.

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                9 months ago

                Alright, I addressed one aspect of your question. Let’s hit another. You inquired about probability.

                The probability of rolling a 6 on a standard 6-sided die is 1 in 6. 1 actual solution from 6 possibilities. 1 in 6.

                What’s the probability as we go to dice with more and more sides? The more possible solutions, the less likely any particular solution will occur.

                Rolling a 6 on 1d8 is theoretically 1 in 8, assuming we actually have a die, we actually roll that die, and we actually get a result. The chance of rolling a 6 on a 1d8 is less than 1 in 8 when “it landed in the campfire” is a possible outcome. That additional possibility doesn’t make it 1 in 9, though, because “it shattered when it hit the table” is another possible outcome. “A meteor came through the roof and destroyed the die before it landed”.

                The set of possible outcomes of throwing a 1d8 is only 1 in 8 when we exclude every possibility except a single number between 1 and 8.

                When we talk about the probability of the existence of a particular god, we can’t limit the set of possible solutions to a finite number. we aren’t just selecting between all of the gods ever actually conceived of by mankind, but all gods that can be conceived of, all gods that can’t be conceived of, and the complete absence of a god at all.

                The probability of god is one in an infinite number of possibilities.

                1/♾️

                Mathematically, this concept is indistinguishable from zero. That doesn’t actually mean impossible: it just means that the mathematical discipline of “probability” is not equipped to describe the selection of a single (or finite) solution from an infinite set.

                Asking the probability of of God is like asking the molecular formula of free speech, or the temperature of a vacuum, or how many kilograms are in a mile. The question is meaningless.

                My previous answer ignored the impossibility of your question, and attempted to address your intended meaning instead.

                When you can tell me the proper temperature for baking a pound of philosophy, I’ll answer your question directly.

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                  9 months ago

                  1/♾️ = zero, its not just close to zero.

                  You use too many words to answer the question. The question is not meaningless, literally I used the word guestimation, as in give it a wild guess. You writing an extremely long response to a question I can answer in a couple sentences doesnt make you look smarter, it just makes you kind of annoying.

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                    9 months ago

                    1/♾️ = zero, its not just close to zero.

                    I didn’t say it was close to zero. I said it was mathematically indistinguishable from zero. “Mathematically indistinguishable from” and “=” are synonymous. Distinguishing between 0 and 1/♾️ would require the use of a tool other than mathematics. I do not know of a useful tool for addressing such a distinction. I do not think there is much utility in even considering such a distinction. I would say (and have said) that even contemplating such a distinction is meaningless.

                    You understand the 1/♾️=0 concept by simple recitation, not by comprehension. When you actually comprehend the meaning of that concept, you will understand why your question is indeed meaningless.

                    Asking for the probability of God’s existence is like asking for vernier calipers to measure an amp of electrical current. Probability is a very useful tool, but the “measurement” it provides is entirely irrelevant to the object we are trying to to measure. It’s the wrong tool for the job.