Luis Rubiales could face a prison sentence of two and a half years if convicted of kissing Jenni Hermoso on the lips against her will, court documents have shown. The former Spanish football federation chief has been charged with one count of sexual assault and one of coercion in the aftermath of the kiss, offences carrying jail terms of one year and 18 months respectively.
The 46-year-old grabbed Hermoso and kissed her on the lips on 20 August during the awards ceremony after Spain beat England in the Women’s World Cup final in Sydney, sparking global outrage and causing a national debate in Spain about sexism. Hermoso and her teammates said the kiss was unwanted and demeaning, but Rubiales argued it was consensual and denied any wrongdoing.
So, it’s Ok for a man to kiss a woman without consent as long as they are celebrating something? I just want to make sure I’ve got your permission to start snogging marathon runners. Or should I go to an Italian marathon, since nationality seems to play a role in consent in your mind.
It’s not really okay, no. But it’s not really “thirty months in jail” not okay.
Headline is a bit clickbaity, 30 months is the maximum penalty for sexual assault plus the max penalty for coercion, if he got both maximums and had to serve consecutively not concurrently.
There will likely be sentencing guidelines though.
Well, then, by all means, put a figure on it. Remember, justice should be blind, so “disciplinary action” doesn’t really cut it on the civil side of things. What is a valid punishment for nonconsensual sexual contact in a court of law? What should any member of society receive if they were to do this?
A month maybe? Even child molesters rarely get 30 months.
Whew. You sure you want to argue that child molester punishments should set the bar on sexual assault criminal punishment? Cause I’d be OK with stringing up pedophiles by their ball sacks and letting fire ants eat them from the asshole out. But I digress.
What you are saying is that if you were out at a bar, and someone, anyone really, but lets say for the sake of argument it’s Harvey Weinstein, came up and kissed your partner on the mouth without their consent, a month is fine? What if he kissed your daughter? Just grabbed either of them by the ears and planted a slobbery mouthful of sexual assault on them. A month is good? He could walk free? How do you think your partner would feel? How about your daughter? What if it was televised? What if it became their life for the next year in a very public court case? A month? Just let me know when you are out and about with someone you care about. I’ve got a few weeks of vacation saved up, I can take the hit and spend some time in the clink.
So you’re saying if a female coworker that had a bit too much to drink at the office new year party gives me an uninvited hug and kiss, I can sure her and she gets 30 months in jail?
Hmmm. Well, that does change things, doesn’t it. I hadn’t thought about it from the opposite perspective, or even dreamed about the ramifications of what could happen if mind altering substances were in the mix. Fuck. Now I really have to think about it.
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Yep. 30 months. Keep your shit together or face the consequences. If you can’t be trusted to not get handsy when you are on the sauce, then it is your responsibility to stay away from the gutrot, not society’s responsibility to condone your actions.
This is insane
That’s Lemmy for you!
What he’s saying is that if it was a mistake, a moment of excitement, it’s forgivable if she wants it to be.
I think they’re also suggesting is that the “professionally outraged” people on the internet, such as yourself, were more offended by this than she was