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    That plus stopping the genocide would get my vote.

    Why bother giving the ultimatum if you wouldn’t benefit by them responding though?

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        Dude’s a concern troll. Don’t feed him.

        I detest what’s happening to the Palestinians too, and what’s been happening to them for ages. But pretending that it’s the only thing going on in the world right now that needs to be addressed urgently honestly just belies an enormous lack of awareness of current global events.

        And pretending that it needs to be a litmus test issue for whether people should vote for Biden is frankly idiotic, because I would bet my aggregate professional salary that Trump would have enthusiastically sortied several squadrons of B-52s to carpet bomb Gaza all Vietnam War style, and if you think that’s an improvement, you need your head examined.

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        The one Biden is can stop at any moment by not giving them the equipment they’re using to carry it out.

        Also the Uighur claim is laughable. Xinjiang doesn’t even have travel restrictions, journalists can just go there.

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          Yes yes, let’s not vote Biden, Trump would be a much better option to stop all of those genocides. ~ Says fucking no one…

          Trump is friends with all of the dictators. If you want to actually make a fucking difference then protest and write to your local politicians to put pressure on Washington. You trying to push this pathetic “don’t vote for genocide” bullshit is going to do nothing but it worse. Moral superiority doesn’t mean shit if you fucking burn everything down because you can’t make a big boy decision. An American Dictatorship will do nothing but make the world a darker place, and it seems you and the rest of the rest of these “don’t vote Biden” chucklefucks are doing your damnedest to bring thst about…which in turn only makes me think that you aren’t American.

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            If you want to actually make a fucking difference then protest

            I’ve been doing that.

            Why are you wasting your time trying to shame powerless voters for not pledging to vote for Biden unconditionally instead of trying to get the people with power to see that if they don’t stop the genocide, they will lose reelection?

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              And what happens if they lose the reelection? What do you think happens? Wonderful, you get to pat yourself on the back for being so morally righteous that you helped usher in Project 2025 and the end of American Democracy. You get to tell everyone that maybe if they just listened to you then this would have never happened. Sound like success, don’t it? I can’t imagine how terrifying a Dictator controlling the world’s strongest military would be, especially if they push through Christian Rule, like they’ve always wanted to do.

              Instead of trying to get your Senators and Representatives to put pressure on Washington, you’d rather just threaten to destroy the whole system if you don’t get your way. I “waste my time” so that other people might see how asinine this whole temper tantrum people like you are throwing. I fucking hate that the Gazan people are being murdered, raped, tortured, bombed, starved, and humiliated by the hands of the IDF, but I’m not going to burn my house down to protest it. There’s other ways to try and get Washington to help stop this, and destroying our way of life is not it.

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                There’s other ways to try and get Washington to help stop this

                Unless you’re talking about direct action to stop arms manufacture/transport or do economic damage to israel, there’s literally not, that’s how representative democracy works, if you cannot make a credibly tell a politician they won’t get elected unless they do what you’re telling them, you are not represented.

                That’s literally the only pressure we have on politicians.

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                  This is true. Sadly, our system of representation is limited to two viable parties, one that’s Not Great, and one that’s Demonstrably Evil. If you send the message that you dont support the Not Great party by not re-electing them, the only thing that benefits is the Demonstrably Evil party.

                  Both parties have proven historically that they dont care about people who won’t vote for them by simply not engaging with groups they consider a lost cause. This frees up their time and money so they can gin up the groups that do (or might) support them.

                  The ONLY way to make sure you have the representatives you need is to start now and hope future generations will benefit. Establish a viable independent party starting in local elections - school boards, city councils. These people make decisions about local education and infrastructure that will directly benefit people in your community and prove that this new party truly has their backs. From there, this party and their reps will move higher up into state and federal governments with recognition and an established voting record.

                  True representation takes a lot of time and effort, and if we start now, maybe our grandchildren will have a better life. It’s a long game, like it or not.

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                  if you cannot make a credibly tell a politician

                  I thought Beijing had better English schools for its agents.

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                    I edited “make a credible threat” to “tell” and fucked it up.

                    I wish I spoke mandarin.