It scares me how many comments I see on this subject are something to the effect of “people don’t deserve human rights unless I am able to empathize/agree with them.”
Everyone deserves human rights and you are being disingenuous to suggest that the OC was saying otherwise.
They said they didn’t feel very empathetic toward Assange because he didn’t follow the journalistic practices he claimed he was.
Nowhree did the OC say anything bad should happen to Assange, nowhere did they suggest anything that wasn’t legal, they didn’t really say they had any hopes about the outcome for him.
You are the one who tried to make this argument about human rights instead of about Julian Assange.
Weird how this happens in every thread about the guy. Almost like there are paid posters watching out for this stuff.
Me, reading your comment: Hmm, this comment by @andyburke is right, I was too hotheaded, I should apologize to the original poster…
tried to make this argument about human rights
Me: … it is about human rights tho…but maybe I jumped the gun a bit…
Weird how this happens in every thread about the guy. Almost like there are paid posters watching out for this stuff.
Me: … record scratch followed by laughter. I’d love a job where I was paid to post the stuff I post, though.
Do you seriously think this corner of the fediverse is filled with people paid to change your opinion? These sites are in their infancy, way too small, the only shills around here are for fake Adderall. It’s one of the things I like about it.
My advice to the paranoid is get yourself a kbin account so you can literally see who upvotes what. That will end your paranoia about cabals.
Hilary lost cause she was a God awful candidate the establishment tried to force feed us. Had they gone with someone more viable, with less baggage, they would have won, irrespective of Russian interference
Hilary was less god-awful than Trump, and the leaks absolutely damaged her campaign. You sound like you are ok with Putin interfering with our elections.
The whole Russiagate thing is just ghost stories democrats tell themselves, and even if it were true it doesn’t justify torturing anyone or threatening the very concept of journalism.
Also, I don’t really feel empathetic towards Assange, he acted as a Russian mouthpiece with his show on RT and his interference in the 2016 US presidential election.
I wish more people would see this. He isn’t some freedom fighter. He happily became Putin’s useful idiot and published the selective leaks Russia provided to swing the 2016 election to Trump. I find it hilarious that after that, Trump wanted to kill him.
I get no paywall. I’m betting you want to stay willfully ignorant. Where do you think Assange/wikileaks got the info from the DNC?
Try Wikipedia
On December 9, 2016, the CIA told U.S. legislators that the U.S. Intelligence Community concluded Russia conducted operations during the 2016 U.S. election to prevent Hillary Clinton[13] from winning the presidency.[14] Multiple U.S intelligence agencies concluded people with direct ties to the Kremlin gave WikiLeaks hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee.[14]WikiLeaks did not reveal its source. Later Julian Assange, founder of Wikileaks, claimed that the source of the emails was not Russia or any other state.
The point is, it was selective. Russians hacked BOTH the RNC and DNC, then only sent the DNC information to Wikileaks. Assange was a moron that did exactly what Putin wanted him to and selectively hurt Democrats to help Trump.
The fact the you find it hilarious when you see evidence that directly contradicts your assumptions should be a clue as to where your defense against coming to grips with reality lies.
If Assange helped Trump at the behest of Trump’s very powerful ally, why would Trump want to kill him?
Maybe the answer is that Assange did not actually help Trump at the behest of Trump’s very powerful ally. Maybe the answer is that Putin is not Trump’s very powerful ally. Maybe both of those things are true.
You are literally receiving the world’s best propaganda from the USA which has a 100-year history of developing sophisticated anti-Russian propaganda and you’re choosing to believe it despite Assange actually publishing documented evidence of US war crimes that put him in a position to be targeted by the most violent military intelligence apparatus in the world and you want to believe the story being told by the intelligence community through their mouthpieces in the government and the news media despite having direct evidence that contradicts your position?
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It scares me how many comments I see on this subject are something to the effect of “people don’t deserve human rights unless I am able to empathize/agree with them.”
Everyone deserves human rights and you are being disingenuous to suggest that the OC was saying otherwise.
They said they didn’t feel very empathetic toward Assange because he didn’t follow the journalistic practices he claimed he was.
Nowhree did the OC say anything bad should happen to Assange, nowhere did they suggest anything that wasn’t legal, they didn’t really say they had any hopes about the outcome for him.
You are the one who tried to make this argument about human rights instead of about Julian Assange.
Weird how this happens in every thread about the guy. Almost like there are paid posters watching out for this stuff.
Whew what a rollercoaster.
Me, reading your comment: Hmm, this comment by @andyburke is right, I was too hotheaded, I should apologize to the original poster…
Me: … it is about human rights tho…but maybe I jumped the gun a bit…
Me: … record scratch followed by laughter. I’d love a job where I was paid to post the stuff I post, though.
Do you seriously think this corner of the fediverse is filled with people paid to change your opinion? These sites are in their infancy, way too small, the only shills around here are for fake Adderall. It’s one of the things I like about it.
My advice to the paranoid is get yourself a kbin account so you can literally see who upvotes what. That will end your paranoia about cabals.
Hilary lost cause she was a God awful candidate the establishment tried to force feed us. Had they gone with someone more viable, with less baggage, they would have won, irrespective of Russian interference
Hilary was less god-awful than Trump, and the leaks absolutely damaged her campaign. You sound like you are ok with Putin interfering with our elections.
Settling for less God awful sums up what brought America to this point perfectly
The whole Russiagate thing is just ghost stories democrats tell themselves, and even if it were true it doesn’t justify torturing anyone or threatening the very concept of journalism.
The Clintonian dynasty and their stans will look anywhere but in the mirror for their failures.
He’s a human being and all candidates work for the same bosses, which aren’t the people.
I wish more people would see this. He isn’t some freedom fighter. He happily became Putin’s useful idiot and published the selective leaks Russia provided to swing the 2016 election to Trump. I find it hilarious that after that, Trump wanted to kill him.
I just read the whole wiki on assange, didn’t see anything about selective leaking or any bias from him.
Could you please provide sauce for this claim?
Assange is a brilliant man and a hacktivist from what I read.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/how-the-russians-hacked-the-dnc-and-passed-its-emails-to-wikileaks/2018/07/13/af19a828-86c3-11e8-8553-a3ce89036c78_story.html
Sorry I can’t get passed the paywall.
I get no paywall. I’m betting you want to stay willfully ignorant. Where do you think Assange/wikileaks got the info from the DNC?
Try Wikipedia
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Democratic_National_Committee_email_leak
https://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/12/10/report-russian-hackers-had-rnc-data-but-didn-t-release-it
This article doesn’t even mention Assange’s name.
The point is, it was selective. Russians hacked BOTH the RNC and DNC, then only sent the DNC information to Wikileaks. Assange was a moron that did exactly what Putin wanted him to and selectively hurt Democrats to help Trump.
The fact the you find it hilarious when you see evidence that directly contradicts your assumptions should be a clue as to where your defense against coming to grips with reality lies.
If Assange helped Trump at the behest of Trump’s very powerful ally, why would Trump want to kill him?
Maybe the answer is that Assange did not actually help Trump at the behest of Trump’s very powerful ally. Maybe the answer is that Putin is not Trump’s very powerful ally. Maybe both of those things are true.
You are literally receiving the world’s best propaganda from the USA which has a 100-year history of developing sophisticated anti-Russian propaganda and you’re choosing to believe it despite Assange actually publishing documented evidence of US war crimes that put him in a position to be targeted by the most violent military intelligence apparatus in the world and you want to believe the story being told by the intelligence community through their mouthpieces in the government and the news media despite having direct evidence that contradicts your position?
Yeah, real hilarious.