• M500
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    Title is a bit misleading. He recognizes that hitler was evil. He just wants to take quotes from the good and the bad and put them on t-shirts.

    edit it seems some people think I’m defending him. I’m not, I’m just stating that the title is misleading as it makes it sound like he is only selling t-shirts with hitler quotes.

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      If you’re walking around with a shirt with a Hitler quote on it, I’m gonna assume you’re a nazi.

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      The title is 100% accurate, she is responding to the thing he is doing. It doesn’t matter what he thinks about Hitler if he is putting Hitler quotes on shirts.

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        If you had read further than just the title you would’ve also seen this:

        As of publication, no merchandise with Hitler quotes is featured on St. John’s website.

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        It’s literally not 100% accurate. He is not selling the shirts…as of yet.

        This is just a fact check, not a defense of Idiot Ranger.

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        I didn’t say it was inaccurate, I said it was misleading. I’m not a Hitler supporter and I don’t think the actor is either. I think he just didn’t think about what he was doing. He even denounced Hitler in the article.

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      Your edit is a bad take. It doesn’t matter if he’s also selling shirts with MLK and Ghandi quotes. Nazi shit is Nazi shit. Doing Nazi shit, no matter what his own stupid rationalization, makes literally everything else he does irrelevant.

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      I urge you to take step a back and ask what kind of person wants to wear - let alone sell - a motivational t-shirt with quotes from Hitler.

      Like take your mind out of internet land. Ignore the arguments and need to defend your position. Just assess the situation as-is, take it at face value, and reflect on the mountain of caveats and considerations needed here to interpret this as something not-heinous.

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        I’m not a Hitler supporter and I don’t think the actor is either. I think he just didn’t think about what he was doing. He even denounced Hitler in the article.

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          Denouncing Hitler doesn’t change the fact that he’s selling motivational quotes from Hitler. “Acta non verba” dude. If I say I am a huge supporter of LGBT people and then cut checks to anti-LGBT organizations my words don’t mean shit. He is literally profiting off of selling Hitler gear. This isn’t complicated.

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            9 months ago

            I’m not defending him. My original post just said the title was misleading. Not inaccurate just misleading.

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              I didn’t say you were defending him. I’m saying this entire discussion is pointless. He knows what he’s doing. He isn’t an edgy teenager. There is no reason we should give him the benefit of the doubt when he is clearly leveraging the outrage to make sales.

              It’s deeply alarming that he thinks there is a market for people who want to wear Hitler quotes. The sad truth is he’s right. And there are people who will wear these shirts just to “own the libs.” Or because they genuinely like Hitler.

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                9 months ago

                What if he just put this quote on a t-shirt and did not attribute it to someone.

                If you dont like a Rule… Just Follow it… Reach on the Top… and Change the Rule

                Or

                All good thoughts and ideas mean nothing without action

                Those quotes are pretty harmless and it’s decent advice. Should we not print it just because of who said it?

                Again, printing it without attributing who said the quote.