• SkierniewiceBoi@lemmy.one
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    2 years ago

    Arch is a rolling release that gets the newest software once it’s available. Ubuntus is Debian-based and it’s also following the principle of stability over modernity so there’s a big difference between how recent software you’re gonna run on those two types of distros. But if you want to try the rolling approach you doesn’t have to go directly for arch, you can use some Arch-based distro like M*****o (not recommended due to justified controversy). I know there are also Arco, Artix and Garuda that are arch based but I didn’t test them. You could use them, experience pacman and aur but without struggle of setting up arch and once you get comfortable you may want to give arch a try

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      2 years ago

      I want to point out that stable in this context doesn’t necessarily mean less buggy but means that the system changes less.

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        Right, from my experience it means that you just have to wait much longer for the bug fix to reach your device. From PC perspective I like the rolling approach much more as I feel much more up to date with the software that I’m using especially when it’s mostly foss where I browse the open issues and release notes on a regular basis

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      2 years ago

      No recommending manjarno :(

      • DDOSed the aur: 2 times

      • Let their SSL certificate expire: 3 time

      I might have got my numbers wrong

      Stuff that actually affect users:

      Manjaro holds back regular packages by one day but not aur packages, leading to dependency issues

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        2 years ago

        Good call out I’ll update the comments. From my reading it also seems like they take a lot from arch sources but don’t really contribute so another downside here

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        Their devs also broke asahi linux by pushing untested code, swapping out a part, which broke XORG. This, after trying to ship the project with a random dev build when the developers were clear, it’s not working. All while claiming “manjaro finally works on the m1 macbook” This could have broke users systems. Also, their ssl 3xpired at least four times. Something which should not have happened once, auto renewal takes about 10 minutes to set up.

        Also, they don’t properly convey the danger that the AUR poses. It’s the linux equivalent of randomly downloading an exe from sourceforge but every time you update. We’ve seen fork bombs, malware, and on a large package hateful callouts to people who can “go fuck themselves” before calling an IP logger twice. All I wanted was to play wii fit man. The AUR is powerful, awesome, but ultimately dangerous. You need to read, and understand, the pkgbuild. It absolutely should not be enabled right next to flat packs.

        I could go on. They’re not good at helping new users, they damage the open source community, they suggest dangerous things to new users, they ship broken tools without dev knowlage or consultation, etc.

        To reiterate your comment, do not reccomend manjaro

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      2 years ago

      I’ve used Garuda and I think it’s great. It has bootable Snapper snapshots enabled by default, a post-install wizard for software, and a custom update script that’s not too customized but does a couple neat things like warn you if Grub has been updated. It’s biggest criticism is bloat, but on modern hardware it’s fine. Still runs better than Windows.