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    9 months ago

    can we ban web developers who call themselves “developers”?

    also php programmers who call themselves anything?

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      9 months ago

      Nah, no need for this kind of gatekeeping. Anyone who deals with js and its billions of frameworks on a daily basis deserves to be called a developer.

        • Heyyy its your super duper new project manager! I hope you are feeling a-mazing because you are my a-ce on the team. Anyways i need you to do things twice as fast, because we are running low on budget after sales promised another feature without extra billing and the CEO already signed off on it. Please make this happen somehow. If this project isn’t succesfull i’ll get fired and have to sell the house. But no pressure!

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      I’m a full-stack web developer and am involved all the way through including cloud infrastructure, API development, database creation/maintenance, test automation, architecture etc.

      I guess what makes a “developer” in your context different? Embedded? Kernel?

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        Only those who code in the same language as I am can be called developers. Everyone else is just an impostor and their technology doesn’t matter! Real programmers use my language of choice

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        9 months ago

        c# and .net? ewww…

        gimme c, c++, go, rust, ruby, python…
        and umm, no dude, native apps are a lot more powerful than web apps… they are not usurped at all

        there’s more of them, but there’s more scooters than motorcycles…

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          Scooters are more efficient, get you where you need to go and cost less to maintain. Your analogy is actually pretty good in that regard.

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            yeah and they only get you around the neighborhood, any actual distance and a motorcycle is infinitely better…
            but, it figures you’d miss that, since you’re a dumby dumbo mcpoopoo head webdev

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              Now you’re throwing ad hominem around. You don’t need to be toxic to communicate your point, web development did at one point have a lot of growing to do and I can admit that there is still plenty of progress to be made. In 2024 however, ignoring the web ecosystem as any type of developer is purely traditionalist elitism.

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                bruh, this is programming_humor… chill, im sure you’re a fine human being

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              Please refrain of using offensive words, specially if you are trying to actually communicate an idea that is by all means demeaning to other people. The community is about humour, keep that in mind ;)

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                word, “dumb ass” was supposed to be a joke too, but i edited it to be less offensive

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      To be fair, we do develop stuff. Nothing implies quality, so it’s not like we’re misrepresenting anything. Personally, anyone who calls themselves a software engineer and works with any web-related technology (PHP, JavaScript, etc) are the ones to be shunned.

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            9 months ago

            lol, no… it sucks
            trust me, if you’ve already gotten used to php, you’re smart enough to learn a better language.
            really just use node if you’re going that sorta route…

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          That is literally a decade old article with basically 1 complaint that sometimes functions are strpos() and sometimes str_len(). Anything else it’s saying is “I don’t even know how to say it”. Really now? Any of your complaints have been fixed since about a decade ago, so why don’t you give it a try?

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            lol, no…
            also this is a joke sub so stop trying to sea lion me about it.
            also your “summation” of the article is pretty stupid

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          Never used it in over 23 years of using PHP. Also, I don’t thing that has existed anymore for the past 10 years or so?

          Seriously, if we’re going to do this, can we also removed about painful java apps from 10 years ago, or the hilariously shitty modules in node from 10 years ago? I can go on for a while, but you hopefully get the point.

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              My confusion is that you hate it tosay because someone over a decade ago wrote 10 times the same complaint that was mostly fixed already since about a decade ago