The president reiterated that the U.S. is trying to push for an immediate cease-fire between Hamas and Israel in order to allow more aid into Gaza.
  • CouncilOfFriends@lemmy.worldEnglish
    903·
    9 months ago

    Airdropping aid to get around a blockade imposed by the Israel…who depends on our military aid to genocide the Palestinians. This is the height of absurdity

  • BigFig@lemmy.worldEnglish
    781·
    9 months ago

    See that carrier in the Mediterranean? Park that removed right off the coast of Gaza and start shipping food and aid straight in, what the fuck is Israel going to do about it

    • FuglyDuck@lemmy.worldEnglish
      424·
      9 months ago

      Bring in some USMC LCACs drive it right on up the beach.

      And fucking dare Israel to.

      • Squizzy@lemmy.worldEnglish
        409·
        9 months ago

        Dare them to do what, the US supports them. The US isn’t staring anyone down here, they’re watching a genocide and selling the gas for the chambers.

        Absolute fantasy that they’re some saviours here, they enabled this and are getting enough push back to make the barest effort to appease critic in an election year.

        • FuglyDuck@lemmy.worldEnglish
          93·
          9 months ago

          That would change overnight if we had personel getting pasted by IDF while dropping off supplies.

          One of the big differences between now and USS Liberty is by how much coverage these things get. It would be hard to keep it out of the media.

          Besides which, LCACs have been used before in exactly this role. (They’re hovercraft designed to drop off tanks in a beach. IIRC, they were used in Africa?)

          • Azal@pawb.socialEnglish
            42·
            9 months ago

            That would change overnight if we had personel getting pasted by IDF while dropping off supplies.

            We had citizens in the war zone for a month until Egypt made a corridor. NPR was talking directly to them as they begged the US government to help them get out.

            The US isn’t going to stare down the IDF at all

          • FuglyDuck@lemmy.worldEnglish
            51·
            9 months ago

            The uss liberty incident didn’t have the real time eyes that the public has in Gaza.

            They won’t put troops on the ground because they don’t trust IDF to not fuck that up, but if they did…

            there is zero way that it’d be as contained as the Liberty was (we’re all gonna know about it roughly five minutes after it happened,) and no way that Biden won’t be forced to respond- aggressively- when everystarts blasting videos of IDF missiles hitting American marines/sailors/soldiers/airforce.

    • NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social
      53·
      9 months ago

      I’ve said since the beginning that they should put one us soldier on each truck and roll on.

      The fuckers are stupid, but not that stupid

      • oatscoop@midwest.socialEnglish
        3·
        9 months ago

        Not a bad idea, but you’d be relying on the IDF and Hamas not to fuck it up. The odds of a fuck-up increases exponentially with every idiot you add to a situation.

        • NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social
          1·
          9 months ago

          We can call up almost a third of Israel’s total population into active military service with minimal problems.

          No recruiting drives, no drafts, that is just in our already active and reserves.

          We probably have more special services members who cut their teeth on war in the desert and urban areas than Hamas had at their full strength in ordinary soldiers.

          We have spy satellites that can practically, and in all likelihood actually can, read the text off pages.

          We got so good at making super bombs that we got bored and said “Hold my Beer” and then stuck some fucking swords on a missile just to show off.

          The US Military is basically the real life version of r/HFY.

          It would take a special kind of stupid to start some shit when we are handing out food and trying to appease both sides of the political spectrum, and just give the US a legit reason to fuck around for Real Real in the Middle East again.

      • dumpsterlid@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        9 months ago

        Are you kidding me? The IDF is committing a genocide that will ensure Israelis are unsafe for decades to come, they literally could not be acting in a more stupid fashion.

        They absolutely are that stupid.

        Also I find it hilarious y’all think that conservatives in the US would actually genuinely care if someone they had decided was an ally (Netanyahu) killed US servicemen. Conservatives don’t actually give a flying fuck about the lives of US soldiers like they don’t actually give a fuck about the lives of US children.

        Conservatives would absolutely sit there and take it if Netanyahu killed US soldiers. Maybe the left would immediately push for military action but it would be fighting against a bunch of spineless cowards because Netanyahu would just blame it on Biden and Conservatives would 10000000% run with that narrative no matter what the reality was.

    • Nudding@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4112·
      9 months ago

      It makes sense to play both sides of the field. That way, you always come out on top. Supply the weapons to mangle brown children, then send them the aid they need afterward, GeNiUs.

    • Spaceballstheusername@lemmy.worldEnglish
      131·
      9 months ago

      Just to put into perspective it’s something like 2 trucks worth at this point for 2 million people. This is a drop in the ocean. We should be sending 2 trucks a minute.

    • Wahots@pawb.socialEnglish
      53·
      9 months ago

      It’s also an active war zone with RPGs, small arms, IEDs and all the fun and benefits of also being an Amazon driver. Anyone who signs up for that also might become a collateral target of Hamas/IDF/Islamic Jihad. Airdropping is marginally safer for people delivering aid. The whole situation is fucked.

      • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        5·
        9 months ago

        Marginally??? If someone even accidentally shoots down a US aircraft they will be regretting the decision for a long time. It would immediately turn US public opinion against them.

    • Tinidril@midwest.socialEnglish
      45·
      9 months ago

      Sending anything in on the ground creates a risky situation that could quickly escalate. The US is not going to do that without careful coordination with Israel.

  • Highlybaked@lemmy.zipEnglish
    387·
    9 months ago

    Refreshing to read the comments here from reasonable people against the shocking genocide, nice change from the bloodthirsty savages on worldnews.

  • Aceticon@lemmy.worldEnglish
    207·
    9 months ago

    Will Biden have American bombs delivered together with the food or will they as usual use Israel to deliver them separatelly?!

  • من البحر إلى النهر@lemmy.worldEnglish
    91·
    9 months ago

    It would be simpler to demand that the Israelis end the blockade, maybe condition the bombs they drop on Palestinians with letting aid trucks in. Have your cake and eat it too. Still more humane than this.

    • HollandJim@lemmy.worldEnglish
      21·
      9 months ago

      Sorry, but that’s too simplistic. Israel’s support is too engrained in the politics of the US and other countries, and they could easily throw monkey wrenches in all directions. It makes the situation worse, not better. Netanyahu has to removed, but as it is now he has to be worked through, and that’s what’s slowing everything down.

        • HollandJim@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          9 months ago

          That’s not what I’m saying - Arabic nations still need to attend to their own home-grown evils before they can attempt to label other empires as such. You seem set on a particular mindset, and I’m not going to waste any more time with people twisting my words for their own agenda.

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldBEnglish
    71·
    9 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:

    WASHINGTON — President Joe Biden announced Friday that the U.S. will drop food aid into the Gaza Strip, noting that the humanitarian aid flowing into the region for Palestinians is not nearly enough.

    “We’re going to pull out every stop we can," Biden said.

    Biden also reiterated that the U.S. is trying to push for an immediate cease-fire between Hamas and Israel in order to allow more aid into Gaza.

    This is a developing story.

    The original article contains 75 words, the summary contains 75 words. Saved 0%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

  • Sauvandu60@lemmy.idEnglish
    83·
    9 months ago

    they will airdrop it at the sea and any Palestinians who want to get it will get shot from IOF ships.

  • mlg@lemmy.worldEnglish
    55·
    9 months ago

    So basically, it’ll light up targets for the IAF to drop their US made guided munitions on.

  • SynopsisTantilize@lemm.eeEnglish
    713·
    9 months ago

    My brain is finally starting to fully develop at 32…I don’t understand this shit. What’s the point? Genuinely I want a reason for both sides in the matter. What’s the single sentence argument for both sides. No inflamitory talking points.

    • Maggoty@lemmy.worldEnglish
      312·
      9 months ago

      Without going too far into history, one side is tired of living in an open air prison and the other side is tired of terrorist attacks. It’s a self reinforcing conflict because neither side can win. Israel can’t bomb an idea and Hamas can’t terrorize an F-35 joint strike fighter.

      • SynopsisTantilize@lemm.eeEnglish
        81·
        9 months ago

        Thank you for the response without chastising. My assertions were correct that Israel are essentially recreating operation Iraqi freedom with carte blanche? I get that it’s not your responsibility to educate me in this matter. I just have no clue what the fuck to believe based on vague internet opinions.

        • I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.worldEnglish
          13·
          9 months ago

          Iraqi freedom was a response to a single terrorist attack. Israel’s response is to decades of continuous attacks. While October was particularly bad, Hamas has been firing rockets and missiles indiscriminately into Israel on like a weekly basis for many years now. Israel has been able to protect themselves from this thanks to their Iron Dome defense system, but that doesn’t change the fact that they are shooting down rockets launched with the intent to kill their civilians.

          On the flip side, Israel has been treating the Palestinians particularly badly. They severely restrict trade into and out of the area, restrict the travel of Palestinian civilians, and have been slowly stealing more and more territory from them by literally driving people from their homes, sometimes just straight up killing them. While claims of an “open air prison” are a bit hyperbolic, it’s not off by much.

          Add to that a healthy dose of racism on both sides against the other and you are left with a massive mess that few people understand. There is plenty to hate on both sides because both sides have done, and continue to do, incredibly shitty things to each other. Neither Israel nor Hamas is right, and neither of them give a shit about the Palestinian civilians. Another issue is that the average civilian on both sides isn’t exactly dreaming of peace. Due to how long this has been going on for, if you took a random Israeli and a random Palestinian, odds are they would want to kill each other.

          If this all seems exhausting and complicated and you aren’t sure what side is ‘right’, know that’s ok. Our minds are not made to be so globally connected, and while this conflict may be getting a lot of media attention, it’s hardly the worst conflict that’s occurred in living memory, and arguably not even the worst currently going on. It’s also likely also far removed from you. If you’re from the States, it’s literally on the other side of the world. Just know, there’s a shit ton of propaganda that really, REALLY wants you to pick a side and will paint the other as demons, when in reality both sides are pretty shitty.

          • SynopsisTantilize@lemm.eeEnglish
            1·
            8 months ago

            I know this is a week old, but I really appreciate this reply. This was eye opening on a few levels. You took a great deal of time to illustrate what’s going on. Thank you.

        • Maalus@lemmy.worldEnglish
          55·
          9 months ago

          They are recreating Nazi Germany and Fall Weiss. They want to take over the entirety of Palestine to genocide the people within. They are talking about relocations, they are targetting civillians on purpose.

  • rab@lemmy.caEnglish
    523·
    9 months ago

    I imagine there are a lot of homeless people in the US that would appreciate that air drop

      • rab@lemmy.caEnglish
        3·
        9 months ago

        North America has the capability to get their fingers in every single international affair but doesn’t give a flying fuck about their own people and it infuriates me

        It’s great that we are air dropping for gazans but we have the capability to stop Israel but we don’t, this is just virtue signalling imo

      • SynopsisTantilize@lemm.eeEnglish
        57·
        9 months ago

        Honestly for me…both. I know what I am capable of as a human. I know what I am capable of with a team. I know what I am capable of with a community. I know what I am capable of with a state. I know what I am capable of with a nation. The answer is both. And it’s the only correct answer to your question.

        • Knoxvomica@lemmy.caEnglish
          56·
          9 months ago

          Your comment missed the point of what the person you’re replying to is try to say.

          • rambaroo@lemmy.worldEnglish
            122·
            9 months ago

            That person wasn’t saying anything of substance, they were being flippant. It’s crazy how defensive people get. We can easily feed both groups of people, but we choose not to. That’s the truth.