Humans have always used violence if someone takes more than they contribute.
In the grand scheme of things, using violence against those who take more than they contribute (i.e., the upper class) is one of the things we do least often.
Very vaguely related, I had a somewhat-friend in college who told me about her, her twin, and her year younger sister would fight constantly all the time. Imagine 3 close aged kindergardeners just constantly at each other’s throats when you were really not ready. They were so fed up that they went into the kitchen placed the three of them in equal distances away from the center, and then gave them each a knife and said “Go! If you hate each other so much, kill each other!”
The all started sobbing and hugged each other, and got along a lot better after that.
That’s…def trauma territory, but, it’s an example that human instinct to divided resources (emotional attention from a parent is REQUIRED for children’s psyche) isn’t darwinian. America specifically touts Survival of The Fittest as THE default human psyche and I find that it’s just not true.
I’d say violence is much more often used by people to take more than they contribute than the converse. Violence against the takers is so rare they write about it in history books.
I should have said more than they need. Humans will look after people who can’t look after themselves.
Which does make you think. For example if one person who has the knowledge is trying to build a bridge and they need a lot of resources to build it and someone else keeps coming along and taking some of that large pile because they think the person has too many resources, then that person can’t complete the bridge and noone gets the benefit from the bridge.
Humans have used violence for lots of stuff including taking or taking from takers or because the other tribe looked at em funny or whatever else. I wished we could be free of our worst instincts.
Humans naturally practice mutual aid and are good to each other. It is hierarchical systems that make them fight for power. Humans used to collectively fight everyone who got too greedy and powerful. It is only relatively recent development of agriculture that made it possible for violent people to grow huge armies and take over less connected tribes. Hopefully Internet can make as unite together on a global scale against the powerful, instead of fighting each other based on regions we live in.
Humans used to give to those who needed, regardless of how much they contribute. That is the whole point of tribes and why we are social animals. We help each other. They did however take from those that have significantly more then others.
Centuries of violence? Try prehistory. Humans have always used violence if someone takes more than they contribute.
In the grand scheme of things, using violence against those who take more than they contribute (i.e., the upper class) is one of the things we do least often.
And yet give two kids a cookie and a knife and watch how carefully they divide that cookie. Fairness is a very old instinct.
I’m not giving knives to children, not after last time. Nice try Child Protective Services.
You look away for TWO seconds and they’re already mid-goat-sacrifice.
And somehow it’s YOUR fault…
Very vaguely related, I had a somewhat-friend in college who told me about her, her twin, and her year younger sister would fight constantly all the time. Imagine 3 close aged kindergardeners just constantly at each other’s throats when you were really not ready. They were so fed up that they went into the kitchen placed the three of them in equal distances away from the center, and then gave them each a knife and said “Go! If you hate each other so much, kill each other!”
The all started sobbing and hugged each other, and got along a lot better after that.
That’s…def trauma territory, but, it’s an example that human instinct to divided resources (emotional attention from a parent is REQUIRED for children’s psyche) isn’t darwinian. America specifically touts Survival of The Fittest as THE default human psyche and I find that it’s just not true.
I’d say violence is much more often used by people to take more than they contribute than the converse. Violence against the takers is so rare they write about it in history books.
I should have said more than they need. Humans will look after people who can’t look after themselves.
Which does make you think. For example if one person who has the knowledge is trying to build a bridge and they need a lot of resources to build it and someone else keeps coming along and taking some of that large pile because they think the person has too many resources, then that person can’t complete the bridge and noone gets the benefit from the bridge.
Humans have used violence for lots of stuff including taking or taking from takers or because the other tribe looked at em funny or whatever else. I wished we could be free of our worst instincts.
Humans naturally practice mutual aid and are good to each other. It is hierarchical systems that make them fight for power. Humans used to collectively fight everyone who got too greedy and powerful. It is only relatively recent development of agriculture that made it possible for violent people to grow huge armies and take over less connected tribes. Hopefully Internet can make as unite together on a global scale against the powerful, instead of fighting each other based on regions we live in.
K so that’d be the billionaires.
Humans used to give to those who needed, regardless of how much they contribute. That is the whole point of tribes and why we are social animals. We help each other. They did however take from those that have significantly more then others.