• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Sorry, that’s a no true Scotsman fallacy.

    It doesn’t matter if they aren’t Christ-like. Many, many Christians, including clergy and even pontiffs have committed atrocities. They still worshiped Christ, making them Christians.

    If we were to play it your way, the Crusaders weren’t Christians, the Spanish Inquisition weren’t Christians, the Conquistadors weren’t Christians, etc. I don’t think that’s what you intend, but that is the problem with suggesting people who are not Christlike are not Christians.

    Otherwise, we need to invent a new religion and put a huge percentage of people from the last 2000 years who thought they were called Christians into it.

    • tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺@feddit.de
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      7 months ago

      If you read the fallacy you’d realize that you fell into the false fallacy fallacy.

      To quote your linked article:

      No true Scotsman or appeal to purity is an informal fallacy in which one attempts to protect their generalized statement from a falsifying counterexample by excluding the counterexample improperly.[1][2][3] Rather than abandoning the falsified universal generalization or providing evidence that would disqualify the falsifying counterexample, a slightly modified generalization is constructed ad-hoc to definitionally exclude the undesirable specific case and similar counterexamples by appeal to rhetoric.

      There is plenty of countries with a christian background and still majority christian population, that wouldn’t even think to discuss such absurd policies. American nutjobs cannot be considered to be representative of christianity as a whole. Much of their nutjobbery is specific to them.

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        7 months ago

        American nutjobs cannot be considered to be representative of christianity as a whole.

        No one said they were. They aren’t. But they are Christians. That is their religion even if you don’t like that it is the same as yours.