• Are_Euclidding_Me [e/em/eir]@hexbear.net
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    9 months ago

    I still think you’re putting sex and war at the same general level of harm and I simply disagree with that moral ranking. Sex is almost always positive, war is almost always negative. These are not the same.

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      9 months ago

      Sex is almost always positive

      I’m sorry, but this is an absurd statement. Sex between consenting adults without coercion, in which neither party is violating an existing relationships boundaries is generally neutral to positive but that is a ton of qualifiers.

      It’s often positive, not almost always.

      • Are_Euclidding_Me [e/em/eir]@hexbear.net
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        9 months ago

        Yeah, sure, you’re right of course. Sex can be super damaging in certain contexts. I do still think that fundamentally sex is a beautiful, wonderful part of the human experience while war is an occasional unpleasant necessity that it would really be better to do without if at all possible. They seem fundamentally different to me, and I’d like a world with more (and better) sex and less war. But you’re right, sex with no qualifiers isn’t “almost always” good. That’s a very good point.

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          9 months ago

          Right, and sex work often ends up being one of the situations where people get abused right? Like if someone is making money on onlyfans, more power to them, but much of the sex work being performed in the world is being done by desperate people who’d rather not do it?

          • Are_Euclidding_Me [e/em/eir]@hexbear.net
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            9 months ago

            Yeah, that’s true. That’s part of why in every reply I’ve made in this thread I’ve specifically been sure to say “onlyfans model” and not sex worker more broadly. Because there is a ton of exploitation in porn. I don’t know, I’m just grumpy that sex is treated as this terrible, dirty thing that must be hidden at all costs and never talked about. It’s one of my main issues with the puritanical society we live in, it’s damn near impossible to have good conversations about sex, or treat it as something that can (and should be) positive.

            Anyway, I’m about to logout and touch-grass, so I likely won’t be responding. I hope you have a great day! (And I always love seeing you around, with your good takes and your Venture Bros references!)