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Second map is wrong. You can drink the tap water in any country at least once
Well, any country that has tap water.
Ah yes America. The land with safe leaded tap water.
It’s more fuel efficient 😤
Why is America highlighted?
Good question for both maps
Yet another instance of “America is actually 50 countries in a trench coat”. Some places here have really, really good quality tap water that tastes ok even without a drinking water filter on the faucet, and other places… well, everyone knows Flint, MI…
As opposed to other countries, where it’s the same through the whole country
And Italy?
South Africa has some really good tap water, can confirm I am drinking it.
We should enjoy it while we can, it seems that even that is coming to an end.
I just want to say a a resident of the US Midwest, don’t drink the tap water here - it won’t actually kill you but you’ll wish you were dead 😝
Southern US here and it could very well kill you.
Brain eating Amoeba?
I can’t say it’s still like this, but when I was in Kansas City about 20 years ago, the hotel waiter poured me a glass of water and it tasted amazing and he said it was just tap water.
I’m from from between the south and midwest- and my city water utility always bragged about how its supposedly some of the best tapwater in the world.
All of South Africas tap water is safe to drink. And Russia considers the SA government their ally.
You know that people can google ‘south Africa tap water’, right?
First result from southafrica.net: ‘tap water is safe to drink in urban areas’. So even the official sources are claiming only urban areas to be safe. If you scroll down to the 2nd result it says ‘47 % of municipal tap water is now classified as non-revenue water’ and ‘46 % of the drinking water systems are safe to drink’
Pretty sure it’s like that in a lot of places… But, even when living 200km from civilization, in a tiny town in the desert, the water from the tap was safe to drink. In the 34 years I lived there I never once got sick from drinking water from the tap.
The map of the US should be a bit more finely-grained to show the MAGA states as Russophiles.
Yeah, like all the Russophiles in Flint, Michigan.
Keep in mind that while they may consider Russia friendly, Russia still considers them unfriendly.
You misspelled ‘useful idiots’.
Russophile is fine, it’s Putin-dick-riding that I take issue with.
Except for Flint, Michigan and Jacksonville, Mississippi.
And in my experience every single hotel where the water is basically diluted chlorine bleach.
Ironically, the second map is pretty wrong. You’re more likely to be able to drink the tap water in the Balkans for example than in some Western countries.
Looks like Bosnia & Herzegovina and Serbia and get a pass on being unfriendly countries, presumably because they aren’t in NATO (despite B&H being an aspiring member).
However Switzerland, Lichtenstein and Austria, also not in NATO, are still unfriendlies.
Poor Hungary is still counted as unfriendly as they actively run interference on Moscow’s behalf.
I live in America and I wouldn’t drink the tap water
You’re part of the minority then. 12% in the USA never drinks tap water. 71% of us drink it at least sometimes. source
The US has many places where drinking the water is not safe, not that people are just choosing not to. I’m sure the people of Flint would be psyched to be able to actually drink tap water again.
The places with forever chemical contamination are also growing.
You might consider updating your thoughts. The water in Flint has been fixed for several years.
The water mains damaged by corrosion were replaced, and the vast majority of household service lines have been replaced.
It’ll take time before people trust the water system fully again, but it’s been independently tested and shown to be fine, with continued monitoring as part of the lawsuit settlement.
According to the latest posted tests from 2022 they still show lead in test samples, although they are under the “limit”. But the same tests will tell you there is no safe amount of lead. They also only did 4 samples for the 1st half and 6 samples for the 2nd half. Depending on where those samples are coming from I would proceed with caution if that was my water.
But if people want to believe the same people that said it was safe when it was brown I’m not here to stop them.
That’s normal for anyplace that hasn’t moved away from lead service lines, which is much of the developed world, although everyone is doing so at varying paces. Most of flint has been converted, and testing guidelines require them to include houses that haven’t if possible.
As noted in the report you cited, which specifies that it’s from lead service lines, household fixtures or ground elements. Specifically not the corroded piping, since that was all replaced. Samples are taken at the tap in people’s houses after letting the water stagnate for six hours.
Criticizing Flint for having water in line with global norms isn’t quite fair.I’m not sure why you say it’s the same people, when the lawsuits mandated independent testing, and it’s a new set of people in charge of the agencies and the entire state government since then.
The levels we’re talking about detect lead from the solder used to join copper pipes in the 90s. The existence of an action threshold as distinct from a target level isn’t some “oh shit” moment.
There’s no safe level for gasoline in your body, but it isn’t a health crisis if you get a drop on your hand.
The US has many places where drinking the water is not safe, not that people are just choosing not to. I’m sure the people of Flint would be psyched to be able to actually drink tap water again.
Sure, but a town with a population of 80k people doesn’t define a nation. The vast majority of Americans have safe tap water available to drink.
Aren’t “never drinking” and “drinking at least sometimes” collectively exhaustive? So what do the remaining 17% do with their tap water?
Edit: I can’t count this late
Presumably answered other questions on the survey but didn’t say how often they drank tap water.
Always drink tap water? I don’t know how you do that, but whatever. Maybe it means when there’s a choice they always choose tap? Idk.
Wash dishes, bathe, water plants, water balloons, electrolysis, all the good stuff
Can’t speak for everywhere but where I live the water is safe, it just tastes TERRIBLE
Like I’ve accidently tasted deodorant that tasted better
Florida? I’ll never forget that sulfur stank.
A lot of cities in California have problems with hexavalent chromium and arsenic in tap water and nothing is really done about it. It’s naturally occurring, abundant, and really hard to remove from the water.
I’m reading the article you posted as well as a few others I found to explain the science, risk, and scale.
This feels like you’re posting it as more alarmist than it is:
- Its not the result of industrial pollution, as it is sometimes elsewhere in the world.
- This looks like its also a small pocket of population (70,000 people according to your article which is even less than Flint Michigan at its worst)
- California is following a stricter standard double that of the Federal requirement and even then…
- …none of the samples exceed the extra strict safe standards of 50 ppb “The highest reading from a single well came to 42 parts per billion”
But since it’s in California, isn’t there a risk of cancer?
The tap water in NYC is brown lol
I know it’s probably safe to drink through some technicality, but it’s definitely off-putting. We can’t even use it in our humidifier without filtering it
Blame your building then because NYC has great water quality.
Isn’t it the reason the bagels are famous?
Partly? It’s the barley malt they’re boiled with that makes them famous.
Every apartment I’ve lived in has been like this. Nothing I can do because landlords don’t give a single fuck about their buildings. If drinkable tap water is a luxury only the rich can have, then you don’t have drinkable tap water
If you want to understand how incredible NYC’s water system is, watch this Wendover video. It blew my mind.
Of course, shitty landlords with old pipes ruins it for a lot of people, but the hard part is done.
Is the water brown coming out of the water main at the street? Is the brown being added by old piping/water heaters in your house/building?
No no! The ‘brown’ is from the BIPOC woke agenda! Wake up sheeple!
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Unless you’re drinking exclusively spring water, your bottled water is coming from someone else’s municipal tap with an extra fee for bottling on top.
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Imagine thinking US tapwater (where some places are known to have a dizzying amount of contaminants) is more drinkable than Brazilian tapwater, which is actually clean.
Depending where in Brazil you are talking about. In Rio de Janeiro for example even public authorities recommend you to not drink tap water.
Well, Rio is kind if a hellhole. They suffer from excessive unregulated housing, with too many people living in favelas and accessing utilities from illegal taps – uncontrollable circumstances –, plus their political class is actual scum.
Shut up and let me guzzle my PFAS and lead juice!!
I don’t think we’re un-friendly, I think Russia’s just in a bad place right now and need to take a hard look at themselves and maybe consider whether their recent behaviour matches their values.
And no, they can’t crash on our sofa.
Is the tap water in Spain alright? When I was in Tenerife recently, I bought bottled water even though I never ever buy it at home. They also had quite a lot of (non carbonated, non flavored) bottled water in the stores compared to my country.
I come from a country with very good tap water so is it possible that the water is technically fine but not great or something you would like to drink?
Why do you assume mainland tap water and tap water on a tiny island far out in the ocean have the same quality? In spain mainland tap water is generally considered drinkable.
I dunno. I just suspected that the government would ensure that the water is of high quality regards of where you are.
I’m sorry, re-reading my comment it comes across very harsh. I didn’t mean that. The government certainly regulates the requirements for water to be considered drinkable. However it is probably not feasible to make all tap water on an island drinkable. Most of the water running through the tap is not consumed (like shower, laundry, flushing, etc.) so it might be smarter to make the water clean enough for those jobs and then advise to consume only bottled water.
I drank tap water all over mainland Spain without issue and my stomach is weak for this sort of thing.
Because the tap water is subject to the same legal framework, that’s why you assume it has the same quality standards.
Well, Tenerife is Spain, but it’s 1700km away, so it’s not the best example.
Still, it depends on where in Spain we talk about, you can see in This map . It’s not that the water is bad, it’s that in many places it has minerals like calcium that gives them undesired taste, but its perfectly safe. I live in one of those black places and most people buy bottled water. I use a Britta.
Indeed, La Palma (just a bit to the west of Tenerife) has amazing tap water. Northern Spain as well.
What’s the idea behind this meme? That Russia is against tap-water or that Russia is a third-world shithole?
Because if the later, it reeks of western-white-colonialist supremacy. Blue countries have better infrastructure because they are colonial powers.
Oh and I absolutely drank water in Bulgaria. This is factually false.
Meanwhile, placing the US in the “drinkable country” where this happens is laughable:
No one would shit on Russia if they didn’t constantly bomb the shit out of their neighbours and commit genocide as a part of their official strategy.
Yeah because the first world notoriously doesn’t do that /s
“US does it so it’s cool for Russia too”
This logic astounds me. It’s possible to be against both, and still recognize that Russia acting in a way that is constantly and actively pursuing war.
Russian leadership (fascists) is acting in a way that is constantly and actively pursuing war*
If Russia is not a democracy, then people cannot be held responsible for the action of their government. No more then in Dresden or Hiroshima. Especially when Westerners (us, who supposedly, them, pick our leaders) are not held responsible for the atrocities committed by their government. Where are the sanctions for the Iraqi war?
Honestly, it looks like they are preparing the average joe’s mind for carpet bombing. Jingoism on all side.
If Russia is not a democracy, then people cannot be held responsible for the action of their government
Russia is just as much a democracy as the US. In the US, the electoral college picks the leaders, not the voting body. The electoral college has no legal obligation to follow the popular vote.
And besides that, Russia really wants to be able to say it’s a democracy. Ask the government there, they will tell you they’re a democracy. Just like the US.
Trying to insinuate that the American people are responsible for the actions of their government but the Russian people are not is pretty close to Russia apologist. Either the average Russian is responsible for changing their country or the average American is not. You don’t get both.
Where are the Iraq War sanctions?
Again, it’s possible to say that what the US did was wrong and still understand that what Russia is doing is also wrong. Bringing the “whatabout” argument at this point is deliberate deflection if you understand that you’re arguing with someone who agrees with you.
Either the average Russian is responsible for changing their country or the average American is not. You don’t get both.
Yes, exactly, none of them are.
Again, it’s possible to say that what the US did was wrong and still understand that what Russia is doing is also wrong.
What the Russian government is doing is wrong, absolutely. It’s not a reason to fall into jingoism and stupid stereotypes.
Bringing the “whatabout” argument at this point is deliberate deflection if you understand that you’re arguing with someone who agrees with you.
But the map is literally placing France and the US in “the good guys”. Whataboutism is when you bring out things out of the blue that aren’t being disgusted already.
Ok, and?
The US pulled out of its wars. They may not be the good guy on the world stage in a cumulative sense, but their leaders pulled out of their wars and aren’t picking any fights. Despite what you might think, wars aren’t popular in the US either.
Russia is actively being the bad guy right now.
Whataboutism is when you bring out things out of the blue that aren’t being disgusted already.
Nobody said anything about Iraq. You sort of brought that up out of nowhere, as if to say what about when it was different?
In any case, if all of this is about a meme labeling some countries good and some countries bad, a meme that isn’t even trying to be accurate on either front, maybe you should ask yourself why you care so much that you’re starting fires about how the west is just as bad?
You don’t think the average person on lemmy hears that from the lurking tankies every single day? You’re pretty much preaching to the choir here.
Well not neighbors. We go all the way to the other side of the planet to do it.
/s?
Cuba would like to have a word.
I shit plenty on the US for that too.
But Russia is directly affecting the sphere of influence my country has, so shitting on them is a lot more prudent.
Canada should have an asterisc for all the reserves without clean water too. Of course not many tourists going to those.
You can see here https://sac-isc.gc.ca/eng/1620925418298/1620925434679
Note if you sort by status then less than the first 3 pages have an advisory
Love how you’re getting downvoted for calling out a fascist meme, and people say this platform is “leftist”. 🙄
Liberals always have been pro-war. It’s good for business.
It’s joking that they are against tap water
