• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Israel has previously denied harvesting organs from dead Palestinians without the consent of families, calling such accusations “antisemitic”.

    Ever notice how anytime someone accuses Israel of something, Israel says it’s antisemitic?

    Their accusations mean nothing, because at this point the Israeli government just reflexively says it.

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      11 months ago

      Isn’t organ harvesting a really difficult process that needs to be handled quickly and shortly after death?

      I wouldn’t put it past Israel, given their behavior, but this seems initially implausible to me, as someone with limited knowledge of the medical process.

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        11 months ago

        Kidneys can last like a day and a half outside the body…

        But Israel is taking a lot of living prisoners, and returning bodies that are missing organs which coincidentally are almost always ones that are transplantable…

        It’s fine to be cautious, but what other rationale would you use for those organs being missing from returned bodies?

        I don’t think Israel has even given an alternative, but I may have missed it

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          But the article here doesn’t say anything about living prisoners. It only mentions corpses that were taken from hospitals then returned, plus an accusation that they are digging up graves. Both of which would be long expired.

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            11 months ago

            If you think that’s all it talks about, you didn’t read till the end…

            A controversial Israeli television investigation in 2014 included confessions from high-ranking officials that skin was taken from the bodies of dead Palestinians and African workers to treat Israelis, such as soldiers with burn injuries.

            In it, the director of the Israeli Skin Bank revealed the country’s reserve of “human skin” reached 17 square meters - a huge number relative to Israel’s population.

            It goes in Israel’s history of taking organs from non Israelis, even foreign workers.

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      11 months ago

      Ever notice how anytime someone accuses Israel of something, Israel says it’s antisemitic?

      Sounds like something an antisemite would say!

      /s

      You’re 100% correct.

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      11 months ago

      Blood libel is anti-Semitic.

      Just because you don’t understand these code phrases or dog whistles doesn’t mean anti-Semitism doesn’t exist.

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        11 months ago

        You’re right, but Israel is experiencing a boy who cried wolf scenario. They just aren’t trustworthy for anything

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        11 months ago

        Conflating Israel with Jewish people is antisemitic.

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        So?

        What does that have to do with organ trafficking?

        There’s evidence of if it happening, Israel gives no other explanation for missing organs…

        But we can’t question it because a thousand years ago idiots thought Jewish people were vampires?

        There’s no logic in there bud

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        Then which act (or accusation thereof) is not antisemitic in that logic?

        Looting or stealing land? Totally the cliche of the grabby jew.

        Murder? Totally the well poison legend.

        If everything is antisemitic, nothing is. And I’m really baffled how many people (you obviously included) don’t see how that logic is extremely dangerous to the people they claim they want to protect.

        This specific case is most likely a hoax, but calling the allegations antisemitic, just on the basis of whatever bad excuse for a reason you presented here, is just as dangerous as just believing the hoax.