• TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    White Phosphorus?! At this time of year, at this time of day, in this part of the country, localized entirely within your kitchen?!

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    8 months ago

    I came to mine the salt of the downvotes.

    Currently I have 5 salty bastards.

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          8 months ago

          I didn’t realize that referencing the official language of the state of Israel was targeting an ethnicity.

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            I’m just trying to let you know why this won’t go over well with some people. I personally do not care, but I do want to see advocacies for peace well communicated so to not be misconstrued as something bigoted, since that would be a step backwards for us all.

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    8 months ago

    As soon as you blame the genocide on culture rather than authoritarianism, you have definitely stepped over the line from political speech to hate speech.

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      8 months ago

      Suddenly the punchline feels uncomfortable!

      Can you also see how people who aren’t hateful bigots would interpret the joke? Can’t think of an analogy (although “pardon my French” for swearing and “it’s just sparkling ___” come to mind).

      I do see how the joke could be meant to be hateful. Really hope it wasn’t, and just a “you don’t understand [generic language you don’t speak but we do]” joke.

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        8 months ago

        On the topic of hate speech, when it’s thinly veiled and/or coded (which it so often is), it’s sort of like direct communication between the bigot and the minority. How bystanders interpret and feel about a targeted message to a group they don’t belong to is hardly relevant.

        As a Jew, I feel no connection to the events in the middle east, yet I’m constantly made to feel responsible. At the very least, everyone expects me to loudly disavow a situation I don’t understand. All I really know is that I don’t feel safe in my city anymore.

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          8 months ago

          People are dumb. A Jew in NYC or Berlin has no to little influence on Israeli politics, and has no more responsibility nor imperative than all the rest of us for what’s happening right now

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            There exists an extremely vocal subgroup in the Jewish community that aggressively supports Israel and wants to call its every criticism discrimination of the whole Jewish population. Either this subgroup needs to be drowned out, as you find yourself having to do by constantly disavowing them, or forced out to show they do not represent the group. Otherwise those loud voices are winning, and it may be a small sub-sect but they are responsible by purposefully continually attempting to conflate those with interests in Israel, some of them even living in NYC and Berlin, dreaming of genocide with the Jewish Diaspora worldwide to evade criticism of copying techniques from the literal Nazi Party’s phase one of the Final Solution. Bibi might not say exterminate Palestinians publicly but Hitler never said to exterminate Jews either, it just sorta happened under his watch (seriously, find a source where Hitler directly ordered it and I will buy dinner). Him and his cohorts are the ones running around screaming they are Jewish and they are acting just and morally in their promised endless quest for blood, a regular Jewish person enjoying serenity becomes invisible in the backdrop. To someone barely paying attention (aka almost everyone) the crowd of Jewish people starts looking hateful and down right reprehensible to even acknowledge, all thanks to a few hateful people and the silence of others. It shouldn’t be anyone’s cross to bear, but to people who view silence a violence, not “cancelling” / disavowing them at every turn is essentially being complicit in genocide because you are “choosing” to allow this subversive group to exist within your larger group (Jewish people worldwide) and “choosing” to continue using the same identifiers as them (Religion).

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      OP has made it clear this was a deliberate choice since apparently the original punch line names a place, yet they still changed it to “Hebrew” instead of “Israel”.
      None of these dog whistles are accidental, they are designed with plausible deniability in mind (if only OP could help themselves ad keep their mouth shut, that is, instead of admitting the quiet part out loud)

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    Remember that they have conquered the Al Shifa hospital two months ago and we still haven’t seen one single piece of evidence of the “HAMAS COMMMAND CENTER” they were screaming about. Other than a half assed attempt at putting a camera through a hole to show what was a… hospital servicing tunnel.

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    Honest question: why are commenters here saying “Hebrew” refers to an ethnicity rather than the language?

    To my ears it sounds like an archaic or incorrect way to refer to a Jewish person or people, sort of like referring to Muslims as Arabs. But if I’m mistaken, or this is a new self-descriptor, I’d like to know.

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      I think the majority of commenters here don’t actually know that Hebrew is the official language of Israel and assume it is a reference to the Jewish people themselves. Others seem to be claiming that since OP chose to use a language instead of a location like in the original episode (Skinner claims it’s a regional dialect, and when pressed on what dialect, he says, “upstate New York.”), he’s somehow being antisemitic because he’s equating it to, “all Jews,” instead of, “Isralis.” That’s of course nonsense; Israel is the only country to have Hebrew as an official language, and the vast majority of the world’s Hebrew speakers live in Israel. In fact, Hebrew was basically a dead language until the Zionist movement revived it in the late 19th century. The vast majority of Jewish people outside of Israel would only speak Hebrew as part of prayers, much like Catholics would use Latin (at least until they ended Latin Mass in the 60s). The idea of, “Hebrew expression,” being coded towards the larger Jewish population instead the one country in the world where this language is regularly spoken is just silly.

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    The original sentence is “it’s an Albany expression”. You chose “Hebrew” instead of a place’s name in Israel. You offer no explanation for that. You can downvote me as much as you want, does not change the fact that this is not-so-thinly veiled antisemitism.