• bunkrra
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    1 year ago

    what is the point here? why to argue over the topic? its a war, its harming everyone, doesnt matter who start, just follow the money, the rest is just afterparty with destructive effects.

    and other thing, link is to globsec report, do you know what is globsec? its warmongering companies backed up pseudo non-profit/NGO. Just have a look in their sponsors for their main event (https://forum2023.globsec.org/partners/).

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      1 year ago

      Wew, US DoS, NATO, all manners of Visegrad imperialist stooges. Mainly Slovak ones.

      So here you have, your point - when warmongers are publishing data about their war being unpopular despite their own crazy propaganda campaign it means something is maybe changing there.

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        i have doubts, the rhetoric in the posted report stinks like bypartizan tactics and still presents glorification of NATO/US activities.

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          Yeah, it’s undoubtedly the idea behing this, especially looking at pretty clearly false results for Poland for example - idk who they asked but a lot of people here do have doubts, and the support for Ukraine is far from universal (it’s only universal in media and politicians but that’s hardly surprising considering how they are the keepers of the polish information bubble) - as you could observe few months ago when pro Ukrianian manifestations were attended by merely few dozen thousands people in entire country. Which for something that was organized and supported by vast array of central and local government institutions is truly pathetic.

          But they still admitted that not everyone is supporting their propaganda, something that was unthinkable even few months ago when all antiwar protesters in Europe were proclaimed “Putin’s agents” by media.

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            they collect the data from various sources, but its a small sample and its usually demografic focused. As you wrote, not acurrate. For me the whole topic is a bit on the edge, who is responsible … Slovaks dont trust East nor West (geographicaly Slovakia is on the boarder, same with minds of people), there are strong lobies from US, on the other hand Russia is deeply rooted in slovak society, both political parties accusing the other to be a “spies”, its funny.

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              Well you can see that even in USA where reps accuse dems of being Chinese agents and dems accuse reps of being Russian agents, and i think “IF ONLY”.