The former president has made clear once again that he believes the office should have absolute power

The D.C. Federal Court of Appeals is expected to hand down a decision on Donald Trump’s claim to “absolute” presidential immunity any day now, and the former president is upping his public pressure campaign for a favorable decision.

Early Thursday morning, Trump took to Truth Social to rant about the exemption he believes a president — or former president — should have from prosecution over crimes committed while in office. “EVEN EVENTS THAT ‘CROSS THE LINE’ MUST FALL UNDER TOTAL IMMUNITY, OR IT WILL BE YEARS OF TRAUMA TRYING TO DETERMINE GOOD FROM BAD,” Trump wrote.

The former president argued that without total blanket immunity, the chief executive would be stripped of the “authority and decisiveness” necessary to carry out their duties in office. “Sometimes you just have to live with ‘great but slightly imperfect,’” he wrote in the all-caps post.

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    Trump demands Biden to have complete presidential immunity for any acts against him

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      Tomorrow’s headline after Trump gets secreted away to a CIA prison: “Trump blacksited by Biden after promoting immunity for POTUS crimes. Irony lost on him.”

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      Seriously! I just wanna see one Dem call him on this and say “yup, you’re right! so here’s Biden with a car battery and jumper cables, an all-in-one water boarding set from Bed Bath & Beyond, a bucket of nails, and one 56 inch magnum dildo. what happens in the white house stays in the white house, ya know what I mean *nudge nudge wink wink!”

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        I mean, Biden regularly exercises and Trump believes exercise is a waste of some limited magical internal life force. Pretty sure we’d know who would win in an actual fight.

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      Well, by their logic probably, Biden isn’t really the president because the election was totally rigged against Trump. Biden doesn’t get immunity and Trump is still covered by it.

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        If they genuinely believe that, then Trump can’t run for president in this race since he was already elected twice.

        They just want to have their cake and eat it too.

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          Trump has stated in the past that he would run for a third term. He doesn’t care about the constitution beyond using it as a talking point to rile his unhinged base.

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      Trump’s positions basically boil down to “Florida Man defends his political opponent has the absolute right to shoot him with an assault rifle live on TV”.

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    I want stricter enforcement on anyone with power, not less. If you have the power to create and/or enforce the laws of the nation you should be held at a higher standard to uphold them.

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      This situation is just so crazy. We’ve had decades of the right wing frothing at the mouth against “big government” and “activist judges”. Now that their god-king is reaching for absolute power they flip a 180 so hard they fall all over themselves to demand that we have a king instead of a country By The People, For The People.

      I know that conservatives don’t have morals or actually held beliefs: they have goals. Any time the world doesn’t jive with their goals they’ll take any position required to achieve the goal of the moment. I grew up with a right wing in the US that demanded liberty or death, but it seems that was all just a veneer over a goal to end democracy, topple the republic, and enshrine a king to rule over us all. The mask is off and a vote for Trump demonstrably makes you an enemy of the republic.

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      I’m wondering if Bill Barr has had a change of heart. Prior to the Trump Administration, he was openly advocating the Unity Executive Theory, which basically says the President gets to do whatever the hell they want. He even made fun of “progressives” who argued that this would make the President into a dictator (at around 13:00 in the video). A little over a year after that address, he was pulling the brakes hard on Trump’s attempt to steal the election.

      Hey, Barr, how about we pull back on the President’s power, not give more.

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        I just want to add a caveat (while basically agreeing with frezik) that proponents of the unitary executive theory thought that Bill Barr was a total crackpot. So, it’s more like Barr was trying to rehabilitate fascism through an already existing term that makes fascism sound respectable.

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          Yeah, and his choice to back is questionable, too. If you wanted to make the President a dictator, wouldn’t you want to find an intelligent philosopher king for the job? He picks Donald Fucking Trump.

          Barr clearly isn’t an idiot. All I can think of is that he thought he could be the power behind the throne, and found out how wrong that was.

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            Yeah I think for fascists the opportunity for becoming a little mini-dictator over their respective area of the state is very tempting.

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    Make no mistake, even if he loses the popular vote, Trump is going to take getting reelected as some kind of mandate to act as a dictator and do whatever he wants with the full power of the US government and military behind him.

    Democracy will not survive another 4 years of this increasingly unhinged husk of a moron.

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    “Presidents should have complete immunity!”

    “Biden should be brought to court for what he does!”

    Sooooo… Which one is it?

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      Trump probably came up with this on the fly. And since there’s more intelligence in a 10L bucket of semen, both him and his followers thinks this is an awesome idea

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    Is he never going to suffer any kind of consequences for being so dirty and dishonest? As a non-American I’m really impressed by what is going on.

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    Trump just said Biden has immunity to jail him for no reason at all! Thanks Trump!

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    This idiot is really arguing that someone should be able to assassinate him without any consequences. That is the legal argument he’s making.

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    Let’s not forget that this bullshit actually killed at least one person.

    Ashli Babbitt, an Air Force veteran, was fatally shot by a Capitol Police officer as rioters tried to breach the House chamber.
    
    Kevin D. Greeson died of a heart attack, collapsing on the sidewalk west of the Capitol on Jan. 6.
    
    Rosanne Boyland appeared to have been crushed in a stampede of fellow rioters as they surged against the police.
    
    Benjamin Philips, the founder of a pro-Trump website called Trumparoo, died of a stroke.
    

    And

    In the days and weeks after the riot, five police officers who had served at the Capitol on Jan. 6 died.

    Officer Brian D. Sicknick of the Capitol Police, who was attacked by the mob, died on Jan. 7.
    
    Officer Jeffrey Smith of the Metropolitan Police Department killed himself after the attack.
    
    Officer Howard S. Liebengood of the Capitol Police also died by suicide four days afterward.
    

    So who is responsible for the attack on January 6th?

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    So, Biden can just throw Trump in jail right now, or assassinate him? Cool, cool. Donny isn’t too bright, is he.

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    So… Biden has immunity to do whatever he sees fit regarding the punishment befitting a traitor to America?

    FUCK YEAH!

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      I doubt Biden has the will to use unbriddled power, even if he had the license to do it.

      I think we all know that and just love our fantasies.

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        My fantasy is that no man will ever have unfettered power in this country. I know. I’m a dreamer.

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          But what about me tho? I could do some funky things with unlimited power: intracontinental, high-speed trains; federal broadband Gigabit internet; purge day; allocation of public school funds; Thunderdome!

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        I doubt Biden has the will to use unbriddled power,

        Of course not, but that’s not the point.

        Getting the hypnotized Trump cultists to think about the implications for even a second is helpful.

        Moreso, getting the apathetic non-voters off their asses would be a significant improvement.

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    I guess he will never be able to arrest Biden for anything, no matter what he may do.

    Hear that Biden? Trump gave you permission to just shoot him dead because you have immunity and can’t be arrested for it as long as you do it while.president.

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      I bet if Biden did shoot orange man, this type of presidential immunity would disappear.

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    “… YEARS OF TRAUMA TRYING TO DETERMINE GOOD FROM BAD”

    Based on this, why should anybody ever be charged with crimes? We should all be granted total immunity from any crimes ever committed, since potentially years of trauma could result from investigating anything that’s done. We should just let bygones be bygones. Like that homeless guy that was killed in a hit&run incident on Sept 17th, 2006 at 12:31am, by some drunk driver who was never caught. We just need to move on guys, things happen, it’s over and done with. Investigating that would just lead to years of trauma trying to determine good from bad.

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      Like that homeless guy that was killed in a hit&run incident on Sept 17th, 2006 at 12:31am, by some drunk driver who was never caught.

      That’s very specific, OP. Is there anything you’d like to share?