• electric_nan
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    8 months ago

    Meanwhile the guy who can actually do something about it right now has done nothing but continue to aid Israels genocide in Gaza by providing them weapons and instructing his UN ambassador to continue providing cover. Fuck Trump, but goddam can’t you people ask the bare minimum (oppose genocide) from your party leader?

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      7 months ago

      I mean he did reportedly call for a cease fire today. Not great but better late than never.

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        7 months ago

        Irrelevant. We have the biggest military in the world, and with great power comes great responsibility. We should have bombed their capitol and assassinated Netanyahu months ago. Biden is complicit in genocide.

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            7 months ago

            They’re trying their hardest to spin any statement about preventing a second Trump presidency into you actively supporting genocide. No mental gymnastics are too difficult for them.

            I’m not usually inclined to conspiracy theories, but to me this smells like a concerted Russian astroturfing campaign to bring Putin’s sock puppet back into office while sowing more division. What’s also interesting is that all they want to talk about is genocide, but only the one happening at the hands of Israels government right now. Putin’s genocide in Ukraine is conveniently ignored or denied.

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            7 months ago

            Why are you in favor of genocide rather than regime change? You act like it isn’t MORE violent to let Netanyahu remain in power.

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              7 months ago

              Sanction Bibi and weaken what little political support he has left. Many many Israelis hate his ass. Let them remove him from power with the ballot box.

              Want to remove authoritarians? Start by not supporting them, not by trying to out authoritarian them.

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                7 months ago

                True, my answer was simply the most obvious one, there are certainly better ways to depose Netenyahu and israels genocide. But if Biden wants an easy answer, its to just fucking kill him and force israel to end their genocide.

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            7 months ago

            Violent regime change? How about humanitarian intervention in a fucking genocide? The US has never been shy about violent regime change, and this is true of whichever party is in power. Here we have a clear justification for forceful intervention and you pretend to some equivocation? Do you have any moral standards at all, or simply political calculation?

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              7 months ago

              There is whole lot of options between where we are now, which is giving arms to Bibi, and assassinating the leader of a country with democratic elections and nukes.

              He’s hanging on to power by a fart and a prayer. His political career likely wouldn’t survive sanctions.

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        7 months ago

        Yes I’ve heard of AIPAC. Expect more from your leaders.