• heavyboots
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    This is such clickbait. Let’s see, on the left, a candidate who is “old” but has done a ton of good studf in the last 4 years (but not all good stuff, obviously). On the right, a guy a couple years younger but obviously suffering a touch of dementia and Russian blackmail, who has promised to be a dictator on day 1, who has made extreme efforts to hold into classified documents, who has fraud cases, racketeering cases and various other cases pending against him, etc etc.

    Which to choose, the decision is so harrrrrd!

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      Which to choose, the decision is so harrrrrd!

      Everybody on Hexbear already knows this, but it’s always nice to see liberals acknowledging that they have absolutely no compunction about voting for someone actively engaging in genocide. They’re not just willing to do it, they’re eager, and angry at their moral superiors for refusing to do it too.

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      On the right, a guy a couple years younger but obviously suffering a touch of dementia and Russian blackmail, who has promised to be a dictator on day 1, who has made extreme efforts to hold into classified documents, who has fraud cases, racketeering cases and various other cases pending against him, etc etc.

      I mean, since Brazil was able to impeach its former and now current president Lula before, maybe the U.S should have actually arrested and stopped Donald Trump from being re-elected on these charges, and in the meanwhile, replace Biden with an actual fresh mind and face like Kamala as re-election candidate… if I were Biden and were still in power during this time…

      Honestly, the fact Trump isn’t stopped in certainly doing so is quite damning of your system already…

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        The Lula conviction was bullshit/overturned. The better example would be Volsonato being barred from office because of his own Jan 6th style coup attempt

        • Well, my main point is, arresting and delaying a politician’s return to re election like that shouldn’t be a hard case if they gotta a lotta bad shit on their ass

          If Lula can do it to Bolsodeputa, Biden should do it…

          That being said, I’m sorry, Lula 😞

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      Biden is a rightist, likely has dementia (trump also likely does but not dealing with him yet) and is too old. Also please name the good things he has done in the 4 years, because he has pretty much just sat their and done bugger all the last 4 years

      Biden is running aganst a Rightist who likely has dementia and is too old

      So my “choice” is a Too old rightest with dementia or a too old rightist with dementia… what a fucking choice

      also dictator is a Fucking loose term if I ever heard one… I can make a case that Biden under the status quo constitutes a dictator, like please use more precice language

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        OK…

        • Infrastructure Law ($1BILLION for roads, rail and clean water, earmarks for public transit)
        • Inflation Reduction Act - reducing health insurance consumer costs, 10+ prescription dugs prices reduced
        • Ended the war in Afghanistan
        • Aid to Ukraine regardless of a broken congress
        • Communication Act
        • First ever Corporate Min tax
        • CHIPS Act
        • Hundreds of judge appointments
        • Lead a campaign to cap insulin at $35
        • More jobs created at this point in his presidency than any president in the last 40 years
        • First President to join workers on a picket line
        • Forgave $130+ billion in student loans
        • Record stock market.
        • Brokered MULTIPLE cease fires in The Middle East as well as between Hamas and Israel even with Hamas breaking the cease fires multiple times and also without Hamas releasing hostages as stipulated
        • Postal Service Reform Act
        • Provided over $369M to reduce greenhouse emissions by 40%/7years
        • Safer Communities Act (red flag laws against gun ownership I.e. domestic abusers)
        • Executive order against police using excessive force , emphasis on body cameras
        • Unemployment and inflation around 3% the best in the industrialized world
        • Added 13.2+ million job, a record and replacing and exceeding what was lost in COVID
        • Expanded NATO, adding countries who previously had no interest in joining, some along the Russian border have applied
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          Executive order against police using excessive force , emphasis on body cameras

          So… nothing. Qualified immunity still exists.

          Ended the war in Afghanistan

          okay…

          Aid to Ukraine regardless of a broken congress

          … and then kept up pressure that started another war to replace the one in Afghanistan…

          Expanded NATO, adding countries who previously had no interest in joining, some along the Russian border have applied

          …and then increasing the likelihood that Ukraine won’t be the last proxy war battlefield in the Eastern part of Europe. Not to mention arming, funding, and politically supporting an active genocide against the Palestinian people.

          So ole Joe traded one war for two wars… but at least its not “our” boys getting killed “over there”!! maybe-later-kiddo

          First President to join workers on a picket line

          Remember when he broke up the rail workers strike… and then trains full of toxic chemicals started wrecking and turning people’s back yards into mini superfund sites?

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          Infristructure was in the works before he was elected, and was famously kneecapped split multiple times with a promise he would only sign one if both haves come, but then left the one with the key climate and public works funding to dry

          Oh wow Inflation really has been reduced… I will remember that when I am trying to understand how my grocery bill keeps going up

          The Afgan treaty was signed under trump, his only imput was how to manage it, a thing that most observers would say was bad

          Ukraine is a bunch of Nazis I would not call that bad

          This is not the first ever tax, at best he is re instituting one but 1 point

          CHIPS act is needless protectionism and sabr rattling about china

          Judge apointments, while we have a supreme court that just ignore, also every president does judge apointments and he is behind target

          he did not get the cap, he is the president I do not care about his campane

          The US is not a comand economy sadly, he does not have anything to do with jobs

          I am sorry he busted the picket of the railroad workers he cannot gain a SINGLE point on union rights

          He started then he was told “Actualy would you not” and backed down nothing forgiven outside of normal workfare corses

          Who fucking cares about the stock market, also president does not directly control that

          He is funding and aiding the genocide in Isn’treal

          Has not even made a move to fill the under full USPS board of governors, let alone doing that to put a PMG who does not have a vested intrest in destorying the USPS

          That timeline is too late, not enough teeth, and he does not push back when companies say “we just cannot do it”

          Red flag laws do not do anything, there is no fix to the systemic issues of gun violance, the US is not the higest rates of gun ownership in the world yet we top gun violance

          Yet no decrease in police excessive force, this has been little more than lip service

          Agian, president cannot control the job market

          nato is an Imperalist project and bad for the world

          in 4 years you named 1 good thing, congratulations

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              An entire country with a coup government that was installed, armed, backed, and bankrolled by Amerika, settler. Fixed that for you. Further, that’s a WHOLE LOT of Iron Crosses, Swastikas, Black Suns, Wolfsengels, and Deaths Head patches on the troops of the coup government that you’re apologizing for as not being neonazi scum. Not gonna lie, this is starting to sound a lot like Nazi apologetics.

              Wild how it’s always these types of liberals advocating for genocidal settler regimes, innit?

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              Yet somehow, two years after that “fact check,” Nazi insignia still keep showing up in US corporate media photos & footage. Are they Putin propagandists, too?

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                  In a country that should really be in NATO if they’r had any balls for that matter

                  Huh I wonder if Ukraine and the West considered having Ukraine join NATO before the SMO? Did anyone consider that lmao.

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                  ceding an entire country to Putin because you saw an emblem somewhere is cutting off noses to spite faces territory.

                  So you have no issue with literal Nazis trying to hold an ethnostate. Thank you for the admission. If 12 nazis have sat at a table, and normies still sit with them, there’s now 13+ nazis at the table. Not my problem they opted to flag themselves as enemies of all mankind. Wild how Putin’s a better steward of human decency and the democracy you claim to love than any Amerikan president could hope to be what with his wholesale butchering of nazis.

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              Mmm-mmh. Nope. Your source has been paid off by multiple entities within Silicon Valley, no doubt to peddle the same crap the State Department would have its settlers believe with how frequently Facebook turns up in its funding docs. Gonna have to come with something more substantive. Still loving how you genocide collaborators can never stand and accept criticism from your countrymen, it’s always gotta be Trump cultists, or Russian propagandists, or those damn dirty thieving Chinese with you honkies.

              If it walks like a duck, and it talks like a duck, it’s not a fuckin goose. There’s too many Swastikas, Black Suns, Wolfsengels, Deaths Heads, Banderite insignias, SS bolts, and other assorted neonazi insignias in that gaggle of fascist vermin for me to believe they’re not nazis, and way too many for me to think YOU’RE not a Nazi at this point with how hard you belabor your blunted point. You’re really out here like “NO, NOOOOOOOOO, YOUR EYES ARE LYING TO YOU” like a typical gaslighting cracker settler, do you realize that rn?

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          Not to pile on you, but whether or not his domestic efforts are sufficient or at least worth holding ones nose, his treatment of Palestine is disqualifying to anyone w half a brain.

          But apart from the moral question, which you evidently couldn’t be bothered by, if it’s such an easy choice, why is he polling so badly? It’s simple: he’s a bad candidate. He’s polling dreadfully in what should be another easy Dem win, he’s universally seen as being illequipped for the job (humiliations in Afghanistan (frankly one of few his unambiguous Ws), Ukraine, and now Palestine, with the Court, w Texas, ceding the immigration issue to Republicans, cant string two sentences together)-- why are you wasting energy caping for him? The Dems have enough time to replace him. You’d avoid these pitiable indignities.