Code of conduct and censorship, I can’t actually speak freely here.

How is it any better?

  • @unpopu
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    24 years ago

    Not listening to e. g. right-wing people is definitely not a solution and makes the situation even worse.

    You can’t just ignore 20 % of the population (see AfD in Germany). This will only drive even more people to right-wing parties, since people start to feel that they need to support free-speech now, since they feel like opinions, other than from the left, are no longer heard in public. And thanks to political correctness (PC), many people actually feel like it is no longer socially acceptable to state opinions against PC topics (e. g. immigration), even though critical thinking about such topics is a very basic requirement for a functioning democratic society, and the only way to not feel excluded, when talking about controversial PC topics, seems to be to join a right-wing party, since they are open to critical voices against PC topics. To slow this trend down, we should be more inclusive to critical views on PC topics, engage in discussions to educate these people about different views and not simply block them away into their own filter bubble.

    Btw. who says that left-wing opinions are always right/acceptable and right-wing opinions are always wrong/unacceptable? Is there a central authority saying so (which one?), is this caused by political correctness or is this just your own personal opinion? I’d say that left-wing extremists are as worse and as violent as right-wing extremists and neither of these extremes is good.

    The only solution for fighting extremism (from left and right!) is not to block each other, but instead engage in discussions and education! You can’t fight illegal activities just by making them illegal, effectly putting them into the “underground”, where they then grow unnoticed (-> Gab) and you also can’t fight extremists by simply blocking them away. We will never reach a middle-ground with vibrant discussions if the only content available is from left-wing or right-wing extremists (depending on the instance bubble). But thanks to instance blocking we are actually creating these extreme filter bubbles in the Fediverse, where all people in a certain group of instances are only exposed to people with a similar opinion and as a result few people of this group of instances question the truth behind posts/statements that underpin the supposedly “correct” opinion.

    • @roadrunner56
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      24 years ago

      This comment is a breath of fresh air. I’m not saying have absolutely no moderation whatsoever, but banning people won’t magically make their opinions go away. All it does is give them a persecution complex and drive them to more and more isolated forums. As long as someone is civil and willing to engage in debate about their opinions, then I think that’s ok. Obviously ban trolls and people that aren’t trying to have a good-faith discussion. If you really believe that someone’s beliefs are terrible and should be changed, the most effective way to do that is to debate them and discuss problems with their views. That’s the basis of how a democratic society functions.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daryl_Davis This guy managed to convince as many as 60 KKK members to leave the Klan, by debating and confronting their illogical beliefs. I think that this suggests that the vast majority of people are rational, and when proven wrong in a honest debate will modify their worldview accordingly.
      To be honest I don’t really know much about this stuff, so idk.