When choosing between biased anti-Chinese sources from countries with a free press, or biased pro-Chinese sources from countries without a free press, I know which I’m going to choose.
All over the world, wherever there are capitalists, freedom of the press means freedom to buy up newspapers, to buy writers, to bribe, buy and fake “public opinion” for the benefit of the bourgeoisie.
I don’t think it’s free but it is free-er . You have an admittedly shitty balance of power between politicians who want to be voted for and capitalists who want to make money and voter/consumers. The population, who as a collective, want excellent public and private services with low prices/ taxes and generally not too concerned how that happens. Don’t get me wrong there are lots of fantastic people in the world and most people I meet I think are genuinely decent. A person is smart but people are dumb.
You are correct. But. China controls the press in their country. You really can’t trust news from either side. But the little facts we can glean seems to show that something is happening. Whether ii is a cultural genocide, only time will tell.
True. But i should mention that israel is carrying out hitler-would-be-proud style genocide and western media isnt talking about it. The only actual trustable sources nowdays are independent local journalists/analysts, and unfortunelly most of them talk only in their languages. Also thats why its so important for the ruling classes to censor the Internet worldwide
You are describing your own conclusions. What i said is that its a coincidence that all of them are imperialist sources, and in fact they are. But its good to know that just by pointing to this fact makes you associate it with being fake, at some level even you understand that
No shit, it’s very well known that the CCP doesn’t do correct info as anything that’s going to make china look bad they wash with different info. They still will not say how many died from COVID and produced numbers that are so far below the global numbers that they’re laughable…so yes it’s imperial/Western News. Get over it.
And its just a coincidence that all of those are imperialist sources
When choosing between biased anti-Chinese sources from countries with a free press, or biased pro-Chinese sources from countries without a free press, I know which I’m going to choose.
All over the world, wherever there are capitalists, freedom of the press means freedom to buy up newspapers, to buy writers, to bribe, buy and fake “public opinion” for the benefit of the bourgeoisie.
You think western media is free? Lol
Well, it’s paid for and has biases, but reporters don’t get disappeared because they didn’t tow a party line.
If you’re too good of a journalist you get your car blown up with you in it.
Do you think Gary Webb or Julian Assange would agree 100% with you on that?
Julian Assange fled from a rape accusation.
And Gary Webb? Really, that’s your go to?
They don’t have to be disappeared. They just get drowned out and discredited. Source.
Lets see what happens with your hero tucker carlson
Lol, the projection is strong.
In that it is not directly controlled by the state.
Its controlled by the capitalists (the owner), who also happen to control the state (as donors for politicians). Is this free?
I don’t think it’s free but it is free-er . You have an admittedly shitty balance of power between politicians who want to be voted for and capitalists who want to make money and voter/consumers. The population, who as a collective, want excellent public and private services with low prices/ taxes and generally not too concerned how that happens. Don’t get me wrong there are lots of fantastic people in the world and most people I meet I think are genuinely decent. A person is smart but people are dumb.
China isn’t any different than “the west” btw
Never said they have a free press. What i pointed at is that western media isnt free
And I only pointed out that trying to separate “the west” or even “the imperialists” from China is a thought mistake
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You are correct. But. China controls the press in their country. You really can’t trust news from either side. But the little facts we can glean seems to show that something is happening. Whether ii is a cultural genocide, only time will tell.
True. But i should mention that israel is carrying out hitler-would-be-proud style genocide and western media isnt talking about it. The only actual trustable sources nowdays are independent local journalists/analysts, and unfortunelly most of them talk only in their languages. Also thats why its so important for the ruling classes to censor the Internet worldwide
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/06/world/middleeast/israel-idf-soldiers-war-social-media-video.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Tk0.R5oj.H6baAlgchirM&smid=nytcore-android-share
Perhaps if you’re not looking.
They dont call it a genocide, yet. Maybe electoral consequences will change the narrative, but so far they are still endorsing israels genocide
When is Lenny.ml getting defederated with the likes of lemmy.grad and hexbear…
What i said isn’t true?
You literally denied the genocide of Uyghur’s…by saying it’s imperial sources so it’s false.
You are describing your own conclusions. What i said is that its a coincidence that all of them are imperialist sources, and in fact they are. But its good to know that just by pointing to this fact makes you associate it with being fake, at some level even you understand that
No shit, it’s very well known that the CCP doesn’t do correct info as anything that’s going to make china look bad they wash with different info. They still will not say how many died from COVID and produced numbers that are so far below the global numbers that they’re laughable…so yes it’s imperial/Western News. Get over it.
Hey smart guy, the media lies to you too, no need to cuck for capitalists. Its impressive how people here bootlickers for their rulling classes
Lol thinking communism and authoritarian dictators are better than capitalism is hilarious.
Its hard to have a conversation with a brick
And that none of them make the claim that OP suggests.
But this is lemmy.world, facts have no place here. It’s all about who can be the louder namecaller.