Greetings everyone! Daniel here, I’ve been working on Linkwarden part-time over the past few months.
Linkwarden is a self-hosted, open-source collaborative bookmark manager to collect, organize and archive webpages.
Key features:
- 📸 Preserve webpages as Screenshot, PDF, etc. So you can access them even if they are taken down.
- 👥 Collaborative, so you can share your collections with your friends and colleagues. You can also make them public and share them with the world.
- 📱 Designed for every screen size, from widescreen monitors down to smartphones.
- ⚡️ Open source and fully self-hostable!
- ✨ And so many more features! (Literally, just didn’t want to make this post too long. Check out the Github repo and Website for more info…)
If you like what we’re doing, you can support the project by either starring ⭐️ the repo to make it more visible to others or by subscribing to the Cloud plan (which helps the project, a lot).
Things like mobile app (PWA) are already on the project roadmap and I’m so excited to share them with you in the future.
Feedback is always welcome, so feel free to share your thoughts!
Website: https://linkwarden.app
Cool app at first glance!
I always wonder why some open source projects choose discord and not matrix?
Matrix is cool but its user base is not there yet.
Then stop driving people to discord alone, at least use both so there’s an option
So… split the user (and support) base while invariably emphasizing the shortcomings of Matrix?
You can link them together at least that’s how the discord and matrix chats are for our instance are. I can chat from discord and get replies from people in matrix
Ah, I was not aware of a way to bridge two channels/servers entirely. I know there are bots that people use to bridge their user accounts though.
If it is fully seamless? Sure. But I don’t know why you are bothering then. But if it adds a “Bot” tag or any other hoops, you are still just making a worse experience for everyone. We ran into this back in the IRC days all the time.
Of course it isn’t seamless, but I have seen good and bad implementations.
You can create a webhook in Discord and in Matrix that will share messages in channels back and forth
it’s a lot to ask people to do two of everything all the time. Plus if none of your friends are on it it’s hard to find the motivation.
The issue is basically an inverse of the “network effect.” Ultimately if your friends and colleagues are not in a space, you are most likely not going to invest the resources because how you also have to advocate for them to swap to a platform with 1) the exact same thing they’re already getting (almost always with less functionality/compatibility) but 2) none of their friends or colleagues. And if you don’t invest the resources, then people are not going to go. It’s a chicken/egg problem with no easy solution, except generally API tools that make flipping over seamless. And with the way the web is going now, that door is starting to close as well.
Oh yeah for sure man, I completely understand that effect. I’ve tried switching to guilded from discord and while yeah it’s ultimately better than discord, it’s a pain in the ass when people just outright refuse to move platforms because muh convenience… but if that’s to change we need to stop using discord as the primary communication method when it could just be a backup or something similiar.
I’m on my last straw with discord, most of my friends have even said they’re going to leave discord if they keep up like this, or if they end up paywalling previously-free features.
Nobody said to do two of everything, having more than one chat app is common nowadays and it seriously isn’t a hassle for the end-user.
I’d imagine the biggest issue there is simply moderation but there’s gotta be a way that can be figured out by somebody right? Just gotta expose enough people to an issue and somebody will eventually figure out a potential solution.
Yeah, I definitely feel you there. I’ve been trying to get some friends to move over to revolt but no success yet lol
Never even heard of revolt lol, maybe that’s part of the issue… where’s that one xkcd comic about standards when ya need it
Likewise, I’ve never heard of guilded lol so you’re definitely on to something.
Also, I should’ve asked if you were familiar with the network effect instead of going on a soapbox about it. Sorry about that. I have a bad habit of monologuing.
Thx for the good explanation yet I will make an account on website xy for support or connect with the people that use the product.
Matrix isn’t some very nieche buggy thing anymore. A lot of people are using it daily and I rarely see any open source app/project that doesn’t use matrix.
By that logic, why are you on lemmy?
And I’m on matrix too, but I’m just an individual. If I were trying to advertise my project I’d probably use discord / reddit as well tbh
Why not both?
Also, if all projects advertised only the largest platforms, how would small platforms grow?
Yup why both both
Discord and matrix are not searchable, they shouldn’t be used at all
That’s a client issue, not a protocol issue
It is. There’s no way for search engines to join all the servers and index them all, thus there’s no way to efficiently find information on them without already being there.
Are you talking about crawlers not being able to index matrix messenges?
It’s not a website, there’s no chat that’s being indexed by crawlers, afaik.
You could index them if you wanted.
A chat is meant to be ephemeral. Unlike with a forum where it is a goal to have long lasting information sharing.
Usually you want to things for a project, one forum and one chat. The chat is more informal and not meant to replace a proper forum. You can basically chit chat in a chat but not in a forum.
The problem is many people are using them like forums, so a lot of potentially useful info is lost (which is more of an user issue than anything else)
That’s the problem, discussions should happen on the open web, not hidden in chatrooms
There’s nothijg hidden on matrix. You can verify yourself, go to the space of Nextcloud, GNOME, KDE, OPENSUSE, FEDORA, flatpak, neo store, libretube, etc. Nothing is hidden.
it’s not literally hidden, but it’s not easily searchable because since it’s a chat, it’s not indexable on search engines. A forum is a better solution to avoid the same questions being asked 1000x and to expose great solutions and advices.
I wonder why they don’t just set up a forum
Perhaps they could create a community on programming.dev
Matrix is a terrible experience, honestly. It’s incredibly slow and their “servers” don’t really function as a community as much as a series of chat groups. I’m not fond of opening my chat app and then staring at it for 10-15 seconds while it loads all the new messages. And yes, I’ve tried different servers.
Discord is feature-rich. And now has the option to submit posts, which drastically increases usability and searchability. But it does have a big problem with privacy and ads.
Projects like this are much better suited for something like Gitlab.
matrix.org works just fine. Nowadays, the experience is as good as on any other chat app
Element is the thing that’s subpar (to be generous) compared to other chat apps. Element X is better for the features that have been implemented, but the current feature set is very incomplete.
Mobile yes, desktop isn’t subpar ime
Even desktop is more resource heavy than it should be. But yes, mobile is much worse.
Beg to differ. Not all of us want to be Beta_testers
Element on iOS is absolutely, definitely, slow!
Desktop is better or worse or the same?
Pretty much the same
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I think Matrix suffers from some issues with large communities, for instance Graphene OS has already had to abandon 2-3 of their main group chats due to same bug and last time I checked (2-3 months ago) there has even been talks of switching to Discord. That is, just in case, a community of some of the most diehard privacy nerds btw
probably because Discord is more widespread than Matrix
Even cooler page to sell you on the app. Very smooth gifs
Gifs are the USP