• carl_marks_1312
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    32
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    edit-2
    6 months ago

    This type of comment reads really chauvinist, especially when you’re defending Biden for increasing oil production in the other thread

    • acosmichippo@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      21
      ·
      edit-2
      6 months ago

      or perhaps nuanced and realistic. The US needs to reduce coal burning too, if that makes you feel better. Whether it’s China, US, or any other country, the point is “X% renewable” is a meaningless statistic. The meaningful statistic is amount of CO2 we’re pumping into the atmosphere, which keeps growing.

      As for US oil production, I don’t like it, but it’s a necessary short-term political evil. Unfortunately average Americans really care about gas prices, it is what it is. The alternative allows for a higher chance of Trump or whatever other republican president who would be even worse for the environment.

      • carl_marks_1312
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        25
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        6 months ago

        nuanced and realistic is when you hold other gvmts to higher standards than your own. Got it.

        While I agree with the amount of CO2 being the meaningful statistic, I see China doing a lot more in that regard than the US.

        • Per Capita CO2: China is way lower
        • Produces and deploys renewables on an unprecedented scale
        • Public transport is taken serious

        When the US/West exported it’s treat production to China pointing the finger to the total CO2 output is just chauvinist

        • acosmichippo@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          12
          ·
          6 months ago

          nuanced and realistic is when you hold other gvmts to higher standards than your own.

          nowhere did I do that, nice straw man.

          • carl_marks_1312
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            7
            ·
            6 months ago

            yeah you do, you dismiss the US/Biden increase in oil production as a necessary short-term evil, but dont do so for China. ie you hold other goverments to higher standards than your own

      • تحريرها كلها ممكن
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        6 months ago

        As for US oil production, I don’t like it, but it’s a necessary short-term political evil. Unfortunately average Americans really care about gas prices, it is what it is. The alternative allows for a higher chance of Trump or whatever other republican president who would be even worse for the environment.

        Have you considered investing in mass transit? Of course not. Biden is bought and owned by big oil just like Trump.