• CyclohexaneM
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    11 months ago

    Hot take: AI good. Every mentioned problem with AI actually stems from capitalism.

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      11 months ago

      I do agree on the whole, It’s the next phase of automation. The real problem stems from the fact that we hold onto the system where a tiny handful of people get the full benefit of the productivity, while the others are paid in time incriments which value goes down with demand, so as more jobs are automated or assisted (to allow more work with less people), supply demand devalues the labor.

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        This is why I support worker ownership and cooperatives rather than corporate ownership. I think we need to shift towards a Mutualist economy rather than a Capitalist one.

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      No. It stems from closed source software. True, however, that stems from capitalism. Without that we’d be good friends with AI and fix all the obvious problems we caused. Then do like Bill Hicks said and explore space.

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        Open source AI can still be problematic under capitalism. It can still be developed to disproportionally favor the ruling class and used to disproportionally benefit them

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          facepalm

          It’s the ONLY method to deal with Closed Source. It can be used to end capitalism. It can be used to end money entirely.

          Do it ALL FOSS now, or else…EOTW. End of story. Literally.

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            Making it FOSS wouldn’t solve the problem, because FOSS tools can still be used by capitalists to displace workers and erode worker bargaining power.

            This is true of pretty much EVERY tool, but never has a tool had the potential to negatively impact so many in such a diversity of roles.

            So again, the problem isn’t closed source, the problem is capitalism. If you fixed the problems of capitalism, then all software tools would naturally be FOSS, but that’s a product of fixing the problems, not the mechanism to fix the problems.

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        11 months ago

        It’s not about using it for bad deeds as any other tool like a kitchen knife can be used the same way. It’s more to the necessity to work in order to live.

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      I agree with you and don’t forget that Capitalism shouldn’t be reformed as Social Democracy claims but it must be destroyed from head to toes

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      That’s a view I have for many things. The desire and possibility of, getting more money always distorts and corrupts. It makes pretty much everything worse by rewarding deception, externalised waste, and exploitation.