I am genuinely curious, I couldn’t find what Communism did to Finland. There was the civil war between socialist and non- socialists, but this can’t be blamed on one ideology over the other, the Soviets invaded southern Finland to “liberate” the “reds” in the south, but this also isn’t able to be blamed on Communism, as it was the Soviets. And then Finland sided with the axis powers and attacked the Soviets, including the siege of Leningrad leading to mass suffering and starvation of “communists”.
I do not come from Finland so it’s hard for me to know much about the history outside of what I can read. I just pulled most of these facts from Wikipedia (a liberal western source), so if you are willing I would appreciate some insight.
Nothing, that’s why the country works and it’s the sole reason why Finland is the economical and progressive exception to rest of eastern europe. Had Finland been subjected to forms of fascism, such as communism, we too would have to battle for basic human rights (eg. trans rights are non-existant under communist regimes, and unfortunately that sentiment is still rooted in ex-block values) and economical and institutional downturns rest of the old communist block countries are now hard at work at dismantling. It’s crazy how destructive one sick ideology can be to a region and it’s people.
But yeah, we did - under capitalism - fix homelessness by literally giving housing to everyone who wanted housing.
Forms of Fascism such as Communism. Lmao. Also what Finland has done to eradicate homelessness would be decried as Socialism and Communism in the United States. I love that your Municipalities own housing and views it as a human right and not as a commodity. The free market didn’t fix the housing crisis the government did.
would be decried as Socialism and Communism in the United States
Ok? If the definition of communism is whatever Americans decry as socialist/communist, then a whole lotta things are communist.
The free market didn’t fix the housing crisis the government did.
Your point being? That Finland isn’t a capitalist country? That wide social safety nets can’t exist within a capitalist society? Real Communism™ are the things capitalist countries do that end up being good, while somehow actual communist countries aren’t real communist countries since they ended up shafted? Any other borderline psychotic conclusion you want me to jump to or is this all?
What country?
Finland, it actually was mentioned earlier in the thread.
I am genuinely curious, I couldn’t find what Communism did to Finland. There was the civil war between socialist and non- socialists, but this can’t be blamed on one ideology over the other, the Soviets invaded southern Finland to “liberate” the “reds” in the south, but this also isn’t able to be blamed on Communism, as it was the Soviets. And then Finland sided with the axis powers and attacked the Soviets, including the siege of Leningrad leading to mass suffering and starvation of “communists”.
I do not come from Finland so it’s hard for me to know much about the history outside of what I can read. I just pulled most of these facts from Wikipedia (a liberal western source), so if you are willing I would appreciate some insight.
Nothing, that’s why the country works and it’s the sole reason why Finland is the economical and progressive exception to rest of eastern europe. Had Finland been subjected to forms of fascism, such as communism, we too would have to battle for basic human rights (eg. trans rights are non-existant under communist regimes, and unfortunately that sentiment is still rooted in ex-block values) and economical and institutional downturns rest of the old communist block countries are now hard at work at dismantling. It’s crazy how destructive one sick ideology can be to a region and it’s people.
But yeah, we did - under capitalism - fix homelessness by literally giving housing to everyone who wanted housing.
Forms of Fascism such as Communism. Lmao. Also what Finland has done to eradicate homelessness would be decried as Socialism and Communism in the United States. I love that your Municipalities own housing and views it as a human right and not as a commodity. The free market didn’t fix the housing crisis the government did.
Ok? If the definition of communism is whatever Americans decry as socialist/communist, then a whole lotta things are communist.
Your point being? That Finland isn’t a capitalist country? That wide social safety nets can’t exist within a capitalist society? Real Communism™ are the things capitalist countries do that end up being good, while somehow actual communist countries aren’t real communist countries since they ended up shafted? Any other borderline psychotic conclusion you want me to jump to or is this all?