• OurToothbrush
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    He isn’t saying that though, he is saying equating communists and fascists holocaust trivialization.

    Equating and criticizing aren’t the same thing. You’re equating.

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      So he’s minimizing the Holodomor, and all the other forced relocations and summary executions of undesirables under Stalin and other Soviet despots.

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        You’re literally doing the nazi propaganda he is talking about.

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          “refusal to minimize genocide is Nazi propaganda”

          Stalin murdered even more people than Hitler. History equates them. I just recognize that reality. If you seriously think that’s holocaust denial then you’re a fucking joke.

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            Stalin murdered even more people than Hitler.

            That’s certainly a new one, where’d you get that statistic from, stormfront?

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              Stalin’s regime is estimated to have killed ca 20 million civilians during his time in power. Hitler, it’s around 12 million or so.

              You can argue the figures because if you go by official government records it only comes to about eight million, but even if you believe the USSR about their own atrocities and not contemporary estimates, they’re still in the same ballpark as Hitler’s regime.

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                Where did you get those numbers from? Because over 26 million people died from the nazi invasion so the 12 million number is immediately false.

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                  Civilian casualties, kiddo. And remember, Stalin helped Hitler start WW2, and was his ally at the start of the war, so, he doesn’t get a pass on military deaths during the war. It’s not like the USSR gets a pass like countries like France do.

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                    Well soviet civilian casualties were something like 17 million people on their own, and 11 million people were killed in concentration camps, so…

                    And remember, Stalin helped Hitler start WW2

                    You do realize that the USSR signed a pact after the British and French rebuffed them and had already signed appeasement pacts with Germany right? (Including allowing them to size czech territory, which gave Germany much needed personnel, industry, and a fleet of really good early war tanks) And after they invaded Poland they dedicated resources to moving minorities out of the way of a nazi invasion they knew would come?

                    It’s not like the USSR gets a pass like countries like France do.

                    France literally signed pacts with nazis and did even worse appeasement than the Soviets did.