• novibe
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    1 year ago

    Bro everyone has been repeating this over and over:

    No! It’s Israel’s fault.

    Why are YOU blaming others for what Israel is doing to Jewish identity?

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      1 year ago

      So non-Jews are not at fault at all for being bigoted? It’s all the fault of Israeli Jews? There’s no bigotry involved at all? That’s what you’re saying?

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        1 year ago

        What? Why would think that’s what I said?

        And if people ask a Jewish person “hey do you support Bibi and the apartheid state of Israel?” how is that bigotry? It’s not assuming anything.

        It’s hopeful the person is not a fascist. Not accusatory or anything.

        There are A LOT of Jews and Israelis that don’t support the apartheid state of Israel. We all know that.

        I’d ask a white South African if they supported the apartheid state there, for fucking sure.

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            1 year ago

            I don’t think it is.

            It’s not bigotry to ask a French person if they support Macron. Or a Russian if they support Putin.

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              You’re doing exactly what I am saying. I didn’t say Chinese person, I said Chinese-AMERICAN.

              You ask an Israeli about their support for Netenyahu. You don’t ask a Jew unless you know them.

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                Man you can ask ANYONE if they support the CCP. You can ask ANYONE if they support the Israeli apartheid state.

                But it’s more relevant to ask people that are more likely to do so.

                If many (most even) American Jews or Israeli-Americans support Bibi and the apartheid state, what the fuck are we supposed to do? Why is it bigotry to ask a question?

                I’m an immigrant, to Europe, and I’ve been asked many times if I supported the fascist fucker who was our president for a while. Because A LOT of the immigrants from my country around that time did. It’s a fucking relevant question.

                If you’re not a fascist, you don’t want to keep talking with one.

      • CatWhoMustNotBeNamed@geddit.social
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        Did you just finish Sophistry 101? Cause that’s all we’re hearing out of you.

        I mean you’ve climbed up on the cross, and it looks like you’re even putting the nails in yourself.

        Save some wood for Jesus.