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    1 year ago

    The cias own data on the ddr disproves this.

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        1 year ago

        the classic

        Who knows why they released it. It was averaged across all Soviet citizens, not just the ddr.

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          1 year ago

          I mean this is just for the ssr, which is by far the most successful example of a communist power.

          But most current and past communist countries famously have famines.

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            1 year ago

            I’m almost 100% that it was an average but even so. May I see the famines?

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                So two from checks notes 80 years ago in regions that experienced famine every 10 years and never experienced famine again, one literally caused by a us blockade and one caused by a us blockade and a catastrophic flood that hit 30% of the country.

                When I get back to the computer we can compare that to the famines experienced by capitalist countries during the same period.

                Regardless, the suggestion that communism is somehow fundamentally bound to malnutrition is ahistorical.

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                  1 year ago

                  Yeah that’s true, but i never said that it’s fundamentally bound. Just that communist countries have a high amount of famines.

                  The proportion of number of communist countries to famines in those countries is higher than that of capitalist countries to famines in those countries.

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                    Africa alone has enough capitalist countries (imperial holdings) with famines over the same time period to disprove that. then we can start talking about bengal and ireland.

                    communist countries don’t have more famines than capitalist ones.

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                That’s what made me think it was across the whole Soviet Union. The cia was usually pretty specific about what particular soviet they meant because their data would be used in operations against those particular states.