• @Stoned_Ape
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    12 years ago

    That was a rhetorical question.

    It should be a real one, because you don’t know how it is. You are misinformed. Extremely misinformed.

    In reality, no, non-citizens who can’t afford payments on their private health insurance (many/most of whom don’t even qualify to pay for the so-called “public” options) can have their residence permits revoked and be deported.

    You very obviously have no idea how Germany works. I seriously can’t overstate how ridiculous and wrong this statement is. This is so fucked up and off the rails… holy shit.

    • Arthur BesseOPA
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      I think this is one of the relevant statutes that links up-to-date health insurance payments with immigration status?

      • @Stoned_Ape
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        12 years ago

        You literally just linked to applicable law and asked me if that is applicable law. Just make your point. But better make it a good and informed one, and not just one based on your misconceptions and a machine translation.

        • Arthur BesseOPA
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          12 years ago

          What do you think my misconception is exactly? Do you think this site’s description of the situation regarding compulsory health insurance is also mistaken, or is it saying something different than I am?

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            A very simple answer: Yes, you need insurance. And yes, it will be paid for you if you can’t pay it yourself. If you are a resident (not a visitor), you always get it. Always. Believe me.

            Dude, you’re simply grasping straws. I asked you to make a point, and you chose to ignore that, because you don’t have one. I already told you. You are faaaaaaaaaaaar off the rails.

            I’m sorry, but I have the feeling that you are unable to believe that the US is in contrast to other countries a cluster fuck. There are a lot of problems in Europe and Germany, but health care is not one of them. At least not in the sense you’re trying to argue here. There’s room for improvement, but the health care system of Germany is a few levels above the situation in the US.

            I’m sorry. I hope you can acknowledge reality and find some motivation in there to improve the situation in the US. Because everyone should have universal healthcare, on the whole planet.

            • Arthur BesseOPA
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              A very simple answer: Yes, you need insurance. And yes, it will be paid for you if you can’t pay it yourself. If you are a resident (not a visitor), you always get it. Always. Believe me.

              Awesome! i think there are a lot of people who would love to know how… can you shed any light on how to apply?

              i’m guessing you don’t know any German residents that have had health insurance-related difficulties? (i do… including citizens of other EU countries who upon moving to Germany were tricked or forced into the private system and then not allowed to switch back to paying for the public one. At least EU citizens don’t risk deportation if they screw up at the bureaucracy game, but, they too are still not-always-insured and still need to worry about affording health care.)

              the health care system of Germany is a few levels above the situation in the US

              I agree with you about that! As I said earlier, it does have better outcomes than the US. But that is a far cry from your original statement (No one here needs to “afford health care”. It’s already universal.).

              If what Germany has today counts as “universal” by being compulsory, then the US had universal healthcare too (from 2014 to 2019). Also “no one needs to afford” is just… 🤷 🤦

              • @Stoned_Ape
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                42 years ago

                Dude, I’m leaving this discussion. You are actually unable to grasp what it means to live in Germany regarding health care. It’s impossible for you to even imagine it. It’s so far out of your comfort zone that you simply deny reality in order to not have to compare it to the situation of the US.

                Damn. The US is a seriously fucked up place regarding health care.