I’m not sure if it ever was a societal thing where people thought it was okay to hit women, but from what I gather that’s what it sounds like.

  • Gaywallet (they/it)M
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    12 years ago

    Protect woman, but if they’re bad call them a b or karen. Whereas a dude - no specific b word and no trending karen equivalent.

    Male on male ostracization typically is aimed at feminizing men, referring to them as sissies or f*gs, calling them weak, questioning the function of their genitals, implying they can’t provide for others (especially women), etc. There isn’t an exactly equivalent word to the b word because that’s directed women who break typical gender norms by being more commanding. Men wouldn’t be ostracized for being more commanding than their peers, they would typically be celebrated. Instead, when they break gender norms by being more caring or comforting they get ostracized with different words instead.

    Let me guess - women now earn money outside the household, therefore hitting them and risking giving them ptsd/whatnot lowers their output therefore protect women by default?

    I mean I think most men still think of women as property, which is why they think its okay to sexually harass them, so I think protection typically still stems from this. Those who are feminists probably take a more humanitarian view of just ‘protect people, but especially those who need extra protections such as minorities’.

    lowkey default to calling african-american women welfare queens and be fine with them being mistreated more?

    There’s definitely problems with racism entwined when we talk about intersectional identities. Unfortunately for many they internalize values from systemic racism, such as social judgements, without questioning their source.

    • @meloo@lemmy.perthchat.orgOP
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      12 years ago

      mean I think most men still think of women as property, which is why they think its okay to sexually harass them, so I think protection typically still stems from this.

      Hmm? Protection and sexual harassment are related?

      • Gaywallet (they/it)M
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        12 years ago

        Yes, as I mentioned earlier it stems from the treatment of women as property. You can’t sexually harass property, and as a society we protect property.