- cross-posted to:
- california@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- california@lemmy.world
Seen on reddit and other sources:
https://old.reddit.com/r/fresno/comments/1hxqlx7/the_more_i_try_to_save_energy_the_higher_the/
Its already 50c or more per kilowatt hour… https://www.pge.com/assets/pge/docs/account/rate-plans/residential-electric-rate-plan-pricing.pdf
On top of the “The Electric Home Rate Plan includes a $15-per-month Base Services Charge”… because people were starting to get 100% of their power from solar and it was “unfair”.
I thought energy in the U.S. was laughably cheap, but those prices are surprisingly expensive compared to my feel-good-all-hydro-and-wind plan at 0,35€/kWh
They are outrageously expensive compared to my hydro Quebec rate of USD $0.05/kWh, or even my previous rate in Ontario of (varying by the the time of day) USD $0.06-0.12/kWh.
96% of Quebec electricity is generated by hydro power, which of course doesn’t require any fuel. The other thing, though, is that power generation and transmission is done through a public corporation, not a private one. The profits go into general government revenue.
That’s California though, where everything is expensive. In the east coast I paid around $0.20 this summer which includes peak hours. Although it has steadily gone up in the last few years. It used to be $0.12-$0.14.
California has historically high electricity rates.
Both California and Texas have struggles with energy costs. California with their constantly high rates, and Texas with their spot pricing occasionally royally screwing people.
My UK rates are about £0.26/kWh for the day rate, £0.07/kWh for the night rate which is when things like car charging is done. Excess solar generation makes me £0.15/kWh I send back to the grid although not much of that going on in the winter ;-)
We also pay a daily standing charge for the grid connection.
I live in the Pacific northwest and our energy rates are, last I looked, 0.07/kwh. I say last I looked because Im not hooked up to the PUD, as I found buying used solar panels (so 20+ years left), 4 8D marine batteries, and a used charge controller and inverter to be cheaper than just getting service hooked up at my lot. They wanted $5k for the power pole (couldn’t share one with my neighbor, idk why), then a couple grand for my own transformer, that I had to buy but give to the PUD ie I couldn’t disconnect it and take it with me anywhere else, and then fees. Came out to $12k just to get a bill for forevermore.
I think I’m $3k total into my 10 250w panels with all the cabling and accessori.
I have to run a generator for my air compressor and welder but thats really my only restrictions. I can make it work in the Pacific Northwest, when I only get direct sun until 1pm, all year. Public utilities are fucking corrupt pieces of shit, imo, only dwarfed by private utilities. Personal utilities ftw