• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OPM
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    8 days ago

    Absolutely, random violence isn’t going to lead to any sort of systemic change, and it will be used as an excuse to implement fascist policies at an accelerated rate.

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      Will it? Black people also spontaneously got rights after assassinating the police. Elites never compromise unless they have something to fear.

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        8 days ago

        It’s true, but as Lenin points out, what matters is building power in systemic fashion. Random acts of violence on their own aren’t going to change the system. In my opinion, “Left-Wing” Communism: an Infantile Disorder is an absolute must read because it addresses the question of how to build power effectively, as well as what methods to use and when https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1920/lwc/

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        Did black people get rights by adventurist lone wolves assassinating police?

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          MLK popularized the movement but achieved little. Subsequently Malcolm X put forward the same demands in a less friendly tone. The were both necessasary

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            Yes. My point is not that violence is counterproductive, it’s that random, atomized violence is.

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              Organized violence with modern surveillance techniques is virtually impossible. Do you think if enough lone wolves start feeling like CEO’s are not great people that would have effect, or do you think it would require a fully underground organized group?

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                Organized violence with modern surveillance techniques is virtually impossible.

                No it isn’t. Why would it be? Organized violence happens every day.

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                I already told you what the effect would be: acceleration toward an even more naked fascism.

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      Random acts of violence never improve things, targeted acts of violence absolutely act as catalysts for change, including on the systemic level. Whether that change is an improvement or not, depends on how much parallel power an organization has.