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Arun Gupta
Nov 08, 2024

  • GlacialTurtle
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    4 days ago

    Maybe Democrats shouldn’t have sent Bill Clinton to talk about how Hamas forced Israel to kill civilians and that’s why you need to not care about Dems facilitating genocide, or maybe Richie Torres could have not spent the last weeks of the campaign feuding with Hasan Piker on Twitter over Israel as he was also in Michigan to speak to Arab and Muslim voters.

    I guess we already saw if they made the right choice.

      • Keeponstalin@lemmy.world
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        4 days ago

        Understanding why the Harris campaign’s strategy of moving to the right to try to court Republican voters, instead of moving to the left with popular progressive policies, was a demonstrable failure is not an endorsement of Trump.

        A trump term is significantly worse. It’s straight up fascism. Which is why it’s so frustrating how terrible Harris’ Campaign was that she depressed voter turnout by like 14 million people. And for what? Instead of galvanizing support from everyone with a progressive platform, her neoliberal platform only accomplished normalizing right-wing disinformation like on immigration.

      • freagle@lemmygrad.ml
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        3 days ago

        Good question. If you have two parties ostensibly desiring office, and both will commit genocide, you punish the one that is ostensibly relying on you as their base until they stop the genocide. It’s a game of chicken with that party. And the Democrats lost that game. They thought “we will still get what we want even though we are genociders” and they didn’t.

        So now. They will have to stop being genociders if they want to win next time. It would have been 4 years of genocide either way, but now the people have shown that if you want to win next time, you need to not be genociders.

        • d-RLY?
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          4 days ago

          Seems correct to me. The folks that are oversimplifying shit saying that Dems were still a “better option to fascism” are ignoring that they have been seemingly doing everything to enable fascism. Just like how the Dems and their media mouthpieces kept using the rhetoric of “Trump winning is the death of freedom,” but then were loudly retracting all of it when the first shooter made the assassination attempt. You don’t retract and well-wish someone that you truly believe is “the death of freedom” or otherwise “the next Hitler.” (I still hold that at best Trump is a Mussolini caricature personally, and Netanyahu is clearly more the “Hitler.”)

          Just like how they whitewash the history of civil rights leaders that were various levels of leftists and called out the white liberals/moderates. Or how they (and the Republicans) steal leftist/revolutionary words and phrases to paint themselves as “the party of the working people.” It is all surface level bullshit, they have no intentions of actions beyond words and photo-ops. Both parties bowed to their IOF masters and do very fascist actions in suppressing those that are against genocide.

          • ian@mander.xyz
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            3 days ago

            You think it’s going to take 4 years to finish off Palestine? Or are you including Iran and Yemen? Because I’d imagine israel will be done with Gaza by February