I currently have WP running on a VPS. It utilizes neither wordpress.org nor wpengine infrastructure. I’m not getting how this means they can do anything about that.
He can’t. Mullenweg is just having a really bad, prolonged meltdown over a hosting company making (morally questionable, but legally clear) money and threatening to burn it all down.
It’s kinda funny because although I enjoy selfhosting, I wasn’t going to self-host wordpress until I saw how ridiculous the prices are through Wordpress.com for any actual functionality. I’ve got a decent VPS and have paid for a couple of key (to me) “premium” 3rd-party plugins and it’s still costing far less than it would have hosting it all through Wordpress.com. Their pricing seems frankly astronomical to me (or did when I was making my decision.)
Even self hosting, thenplug ins directory and updates etc seem to be where they have stopped wp engine access. It is still open for other websites but could be cut off if they chose.
From what ive read, manual upload of a plugin still works, so its just removing convenience and auto update. I doubt its long before a fork or plug in offers identicsl functionality.
Where do you get your updates from? Theoretically they could change the license for newer versions or switched to a paid model or any number of things. Your only choice would be a fork or nothing, the latter which would suck if there’s a security hole. As others have mentioned look what happen with OpenOffice
I’ve been down this road before, that doesn’t really scare me. Something this big, there will be a good fork if that happens.
Happily using LibreOffice instead of OpenOffice for like a decade now, and there’s also a reason I’ve got Jellyfin instead of Emby running on the server in the basement.
Still, good point, I was trying to figure out how his current, immediate meltdown was related to self-hosting generically, and it sounds like it’s not.
Don’t wp updates and plugins only come from one of the 2? Anyway I’m pretty sure they’re just mad that wpengine uses bandwidth from the wp update infrastructure without paying instead of hosting their own update infrastructure, which basically means that selfhosters / individuals are not the target. That said it still sounds like the dude is being hella petty about it.
I currently have WP running on a VPS. It utilizes neither wordpress.org nor wpengine infrastructure. I’m not getting how this means they can do anything about that.
Edited to add - I did dig up this article which has helped me to understand the situation a bit better FWIW: https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/4/24262232/matt-mullenweg-wordpress-org-wp-engine
He can’t. Mullenweg is just having a really bad, prolonged meltdown over a hosting company making (morally questionable, but legally clear) money and threatening to burn it all down.
It’s kinda funny because although I enjoy selfhosting, I wasn’t going to self-host wordpress until I saw how ridiculous the prices are through Wordpress.com for any actual functionality. I’ve got a decent VPS and have paid for a couple of key (to me) “premium” 3rd-party plugins and it’s still costing far less than it would have hosting it all through Wordpress.com. Their pricing seems frankly astronomical to me (or did when I was making my decision.)
I did dig up this article which has helped me to understand the situation a bit better FWIW: https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/4/24262232/matt-mullenweg-wordpress-org-wp-engine
As far as I have been able to tell, it doesn’t. If you have your own infra it doesn’t affect you at all.
Even self hosting, thenplug ins directory and updates etc seem to be where they have stopped wp engine access. It is still open for other websites but could be cut off if they chose.
From what ive read, manual upload of a plugin still works, so its just removing convenience and auto update. I doubt its long before a fork or plug in offers identicsl functionality.
This is also about WP Engine access to upload their plugins and support their users on the centralized forums,…
Where do you get your updates from? Theoretically they could change the license for newer versions or switched to a paid model or any number of things. Your only choice would be a fork or nothing, the latter which would suck if there’s a security hole. As others have mentioned look what happen with OpenOffice
I’ve been down this road before, that doesn’t really scare me. Something this big, there will be a good fork if that happens.
Happily using LibreOffice instead of OpenOffice for like a decade now, and there’s also a reason I’ve got Jellyfin instead of Emby running on the server in the basement.
Still, good point, I was trying to figure out how his current, immediate meltdown was related to self-hosting generically, and it sounds like it’s not.
What happened with OpenOffice? iirc Oracle bought them then made it open source and abandoned it, so it became LibreOffice, still free and awesome.
I think this whole spat is about wordpress.com not .org
I specified org because that’s what’s in OP, but honestly my comment is the same either way. :D
Don’t wp updates and plugins only come from one of the 2? Anyway I’m pretty sure they’re just mad that wpengine uses bandwidth from the wp update infrastructure without paying instead of hosting their own update infrastructure, which basically means that selfhosters / individuals are not the target. That said it still sounds like the dude is being hella petty about it.
I agree, and after posting that I did dig up this article which helped me a little to understand FWIW: https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/4/24262232/matt-mullenweg-wordpress-org-wp-engine