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      incorrect, Im a socialist. she just doesn’t know how to be effective at getting the change we all desire; and I doubt she’ll be good as a president. shes hurt and angry and lashing out. she should run locally for a governor position and prove she knows how to develop and build worker run cooperatives before trying her hand at the national stage.

      the first step is following khan by breaking non-competes, then provide support and resources for worker run organizations.

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        For clarity, PSL is a Marxist organization, not a Syndicalist or Social Democrat org. As such, she is not individually picking policies based on being “hurt and angry,” but Marxist analysis along party lines. The goal of Marxism isn’t worker cooperatives, more on that in the article Cooperative Property Is Not Socialist (bad title, the point is that cooperatives are not Marxist).

        Additionally, PSL is a revolutionary org (again, it’s Marxist), it isn’t trying to reform the system, but overthrow it entirely.

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          You’re attempting to make a distinction that is immaterial to the end result, as your own article admits. like i said shes more than welcome to run, she just won’t get any support which is what she needs. destruction for destruction sake doesn’t work, nor does it ensure the end result.

          like I said, I suspect Claudia has a back bone, what revolutionary doesn’t? she is just doomed to failure because she doesn’t know how to conduct a revolution and will be unable to gain support because she refused to find levers to pull and instead just swings a hammer, because shes hurt and angry. If thats your jam by all means vote for her, but be aware ignoring the facts i just presented makes you just as blind as harris is. :)

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            destruction for destruction sake doesn’t work, nor does it ensure the end result.

            She isn’t doing destruction for destruction’s sake.

            she is just doomed to failure because she doesn’t know how to conduct a revolution and will be unable to gain support because she refused to find levers to pull and instead just swings a hammer, because shes hurt and angry. If thats your jam by all means vote for her. :)

            You have yet to explain any of this.

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              She isn’t doing destruction for destruction’s sake.

              absolutely is unless there is a plan to replace the system. hence all of my original points around her lack of coherent plans that address actual needs of the people. breaking the current system without sound ideas on how the new system will operate is destruction for destruction sake. You don’t tear your house down without a alternative place to shelter. but keep waving your flag on the hill, I’lll bring you a picnic basket and chill with you. =)

              You have yet to explain any of this.

              I dont need to, those are my opinions you can take or leave them as you will. or just watch the election play out and get your answer. =)

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                absolutely is unless there is a plan to replace the system. hence all of my original points around her lack of coherent plans that address actual needs of the people.

                You read the party platform of PSL. PSL has coherent plans.

                breaking the current system without sound ideas on how the new system will operate is destruction for destruction sake.

                That isn’t what’s happening.

                breaking the current system without sound ideas on how the new system will operate is destruction for destruction sake.

                You keep arguing against strawmen.

                I dont need to, those are my opinions you can take or leave them as you will. or just watch the election play out and get your answer. =)

                That’s fine, you just have no coherent plans for establishing Socialism.

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                  you’re welcome to link to resources. I checked out her campaign site it wasn’t interesting and i explained why each point will fail. I dont particularly care to spend my time beyond that digging to decide if she was is worth my time, determined she isn’t. The campaign site is incoherent as far as plans go. if you want to goal post shift to PSL in general feel free to do so and i’ll tell you what i think but otherwise. 🤷 if you want support you need to do the effort to earn it. ;)