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      That is the most selfish possible way to approach life. You’re not the main character, other people’s lives are at stake. Voting a specific way just to make yourself feel better knowing you are endangering others by doing so is not some morally superior choice.

      Risking letting someone win who conspired to overthrow an election and who has promised his supporters that if they elect him this time they won’t have to vote ever again. Selfish naive children. Fuck Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and the rest of the Democratic machine, at least you’ll be able to vote again and you might actually get to negotiate for things that make people’s lives better.

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        You’re not the main character,

        You are. You are also responsible for your own choices whether you admit it or not.

        That is the most selfish possible way to approach life.

        If taking responsibility is selfish, then selfishness is a virtue.

        at least you’ll be able to vote again and you might actually get to negotiate for things that make people’s lives better.

        They are already threatening you with Trump if you don’t vote for them and don’t want to compromise. So about that “you’ll be able to vote again” - I think that’s true, but since that threat works, that’ll likely be the same kind of choice over and over. When you agree to get owned for protection, you usually don’t get owned just once.

        Selfish naive children.

        For fuck’s sake, are you 16?

        How can a grown person be that arrogant without knowing shit about game theory?

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          People who proport to support Palestine, but advocate actions that allow a win for Donald “I’m the best king of Israel ever” Trump and his “Finish them” Israeli bomb-signing Republican party aren’t being honest with the people they’re debating with.

          It is utterly unprincipled republicanism when people PRETEND to care and then advocate allowing the fascist KKK racist maniac genocidal republican party to win.

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            This post was reported. I think the objection would be to the second paragraph where it sounds like you are making a claim about the character of the person.

            We want this to be an inviting place where people can share what they are passionate about. Everyone is free to attack each other’s opinions and stances. However, there are rules against attacking individuals and groups of people.

            Not only is it against the rules but there are much more effective methods of arguing. Ad hominem attacks are poor at persuasion.

            Do you mind rewriting the second paragraph to focus on the arguments made in the prior comment, rather than the character of the person?

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              I hate this idea that it’s somehow principled to allow the fascist to win. How can you tell the difference between a right wing troll trying to let their KKK supporting maniac destroy America, Palestine and Ukraine, and a left wing person with principled objections who wants to vote against Harris? You can’t. They’re advocating the same actions with the same outcomes. I can’t tell which you are, but please wake up to the real world or shut up trolling people who actually care.

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                hate this idea that it’s somehow principled to allow the fascist to win.

                i hate to break it to you, but the secret service is allowing him to win. the democrat-run justice department is allowing him to win. you are allowing him to win. you could stop him. but you don’t really believe he’s a threat. you’re just berating people who won’t join your team.

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              .ml user pretends they don’t understand basic common sense regarding the US election. News at 11.

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          Are “approved” political opinions the new standard for adulthood?

          DNC please assign me a komissar 🤡

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            No, but it takes a child to feel morally superior when they enabled people to hurt others because the other option was imperfect.

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              Wtf is this even supposed to mean?

              “Vote for my guy OR you will hurt kittens”

              Vote the regime is the vote to hurt people. So why are you trying to hurt us?

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                Man, you must be buying straw in bulk. All these strawmen you’re building in this thread…

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                  Y’all have not provided a good counter argument besides saying we have to vote my guy because my guy is good.

                  Fear mongering and shaming is not a valid argument BTW.