There is a context to what was said that is not fairly put in the title of the article, but this is still fucking creepy, misogynistic, ultimately unacceptable behavior.
There is a context to what was said that is not fairly put in the title of the article…
What’s the context? The only context I know is she endorsed Kamala and signed her name as Childless Cat Lady. Musk didn’t like that and said this line. Did I miss anything?
If not (and even if I did), as a male talking to a female, saying you’re going to “give you a child” pretty much only means “I’m going to impregnate you.”
Yes, that exactly. The way she signed the endorsement and its relation to the Republican candidate. Still, the things he said are very disturbing and menacing, coming from the richest person in the world.
So there’s no meaningful missing context. With or without the context, it is widely understood to mean “I’ll impregnate you.” I don’t see how that “missing context” makes the headline “unfair,” as you put it.
I find the title unnecessarily “clickbaity”, and this is what I think is unfair for readers and for the very same news reported.
EDIT: For example, I would prefer that instead of including “Elon Musk sets his sights on Taylor Swift”, they would have put something like “after Taylor endorsed Harris as a Childless Cat Owner”.
Clickbaity, sure. But this is one of the justifiable clickbaity times. They said the meat of the article, while clickbait, that was the essence of the problem. “I’ll give you a child.” That’s the issue. It doesn’t really matter if he’s randomly setting his sights on her, or if she said she was childless. That part does not matter. They could’ve left everything out but the quote. The part that does matter, is he said he’ll give her a child without being asked.
You agree it’s a terrible thing for him to say. Is it less terrible for him to say it because she signed as childless? No? Then context does not matter. Yes, it’s less terrible because she said it? Well, then there’s the hiccup as we disagree on that part and we’ll disagree on the context, too.
Not for me. I think it has to do with the type of journalism I am accustomed to read, maybe. Then there is the issue of the website where this comes from, I don’t know who they aim to as their readers. It’s possible that it is focused on reporting about famous people or “stars” as they call them, and in this case, it’s totally fine. I appreciate your point of view, though.
Oh, and yes, I agree the guy said horrible things to Swift. That’s not a discussion for me. Where those words came from is important for me to know, and that bit of information would have been appreciated.
There is a context to what was said that is not fairly put in the title of the article, but this is still fucking creepy, misogynistic, ultimately unacceptable behavior.
What’s the context? The only context I know is she endorsed Kamala and signed her name as Childless Cat Lady. Musk didn’t like that and said this line. Did I miss anything?
If not (and even if I did), as a male talking to a female, saying you’re going to “give you a child” pretty much only means “I’m going to impregnate you.”
Pretty much, unless he was planning to donate one of his existing illegitimate children to her.
“Hey, I’ve got a bunch extra of these and nobody’s answered my sale ad on X, you should take one”
I imagine that would be hard as many of them either actively loathe Elon or he’s totally forgotten about them.
That’s exactly what it means
Yech
Yes, that exactly. The way she signed the endorsement and its relation to the Republican candidate. Still, the things he said are very disturbing and menacing, coming from the richest person in the world.
So there’s no meaningful missing context. With or without the context, it is widely understood to mean “I’ll impregnate you.” I don’t see how that “missing context” makes the headline “unfair,” as you put it.
I find the title unnecessarily “clickbaity”, and this is what I think is unfair for readers and for the very same news reported.
EDIT: For example, I would prefer that instead of including “Elon Musk sets his sights on Taylor Swift”, they would have put something like “after Taylor endorsed Harris as a Childless Cat Owner”.
Clickbaity, sure. But this is one of the justifiable clickbaity times. They said the meat of the article, while clickbait, that was the essence of the problem. “I’ll give you a child.” That’s the issue. It doesn’t really matter if he’s randomly setting his sights on her, or if she said she was childless. That part does not matter. They could’ve left everything out but the quote. The part that does matter, is he said he’ll give her a child without being asked.
You agree it’s a terrible thing for him to say. Is it less terrible for him to say it because she signed as childless? No? Then context does not matter. Yes, it’s less terrible because she said it? Well, then there’s the hiccup as we disagree on that part and we’ll disagree on the context, too.
Not for me. I think it has to do with the type of journalism I am accustomed to read, maybe. Then there is the issue of the website where this comes from, I don’t know who they aim to as their readers. It’s possible that it is focused on reporting about famous people or “stars” as they call them, and in this case, it’s totally fine. I appreciate your point of view, though.
Oh, and yes, I agree the guy said horrible things to Swift. That’s not a discussion for me. Where those words came from is important for me to know, and that bit of information would have been appreciated.