I knew it was inevitable that she’d lean into her past as California’s top cop because of Trump’s convictions but it still makes me cringe. That history is reason she was performing so badly that she had to drop out before the Iowa caucus. 😬
Naw, this is where she shines. It’s not like attacks aren’t new; it’s not as if that isn’t all Trump does. But at least hers aren’t ad hominem attacks, and it’s something that has to be repeated, over and over, until America gets it: he’s a convicted felon, for chrissake, and the only reason he didn’t have more convictions is because his judges keep delaying and throwing out cases. He has a reputation for appointing crooked judges; it’s also fair to question the ethics of any judge he appointed.
Yes, he’s a felon and that is funny, but this law and order rhetoric was never going to excite the Democratic base to vote for her. It flopped in 2020 and it will flop again. Democrats don’t want to vote for a cop.
Hopefully it’s not the focus of the campaign and she focuses on the issues instead.
I think your’s is a valid take, but it’s one of her strengths and she has to play to it. The situation is also different this time: her base does think Trump is a crook who deserves to pay for his crimes, and he seems to be getting away with a lot of them.
In 2020, it was law and order, and assumed to be against The People. This time, she can focus her prosecutorial skills against an accepted villain. Sure, she won’t win points with Trump’s base, but nothing she can do will change that.
Honest answer: her rhetoric in 2020 did not match her past. Most notably, when she decided to run, she suddenly started supporting marijuana legalization. Previously, as attorney general in California, she allowed prosecution of marijuana offenses (which many attorneys general in Blue states choose NOT to do). She voiced opposition to recreational legalization. This is where her being about “law and order” were shoved back in her face in 2020, as these drug offenses have always and still do target POC (not because of her, but because of racist police)
She’s said that her thoughts have “evolved”, but that never works for me. When we have so many people who have always been on the right side of history, why do we keep getting candidates who need to learn to be better
edit: obligatory vote for her! She’s leaps and bounds the superior candidate. Better than Biden, better than Hilary - best we’ve had in a while (that DNC is willing to support)
Fellow American, I will be writing in Jon Stewart. It will send a message or something.
Edit: Fellow American, I can’t tell if someone’s sarcasm detector is faulty or if people who actually say shit like this are downvoting you for making fun of them.
Police brutality is a pretty big deal among Democrats, especially in 2020, and her history was a drag on her campaign. It’s part of why she dropped out earlier than everyone else.
It’s something that doesn’t play well in a primary because you’re trying to get the left side of the party.
Now in a general election it will draw centrists, as well as those who want Trump to properly account for his crimes. Those people on the far left who wouldn’t have chosen her over Bernie or whatever, they are so anti-Trump she can probably count on them to vote for her. There’s not a strong leftist third party candidate, either.
I hope you’ll be among them, even though you cringe.
In a general election it could also cause Democrats to stay home. You know that can happen, right? Harris needs to reassure Democrats that she won’t govern like a cop and appealing to mythical Independents at the cost of her base is a bad move.
I’m happy to vote for a chance at ending the genocide. I suspect she probably won’t but I’m willing to vote for a chance.
But if she gets deep into law and order shit then there are going to be people who see it and assume she’s basically just a moderate Republican, and they won’t care about taking that chance. Calling me cringe doesn’t change that.
Honey, I didn’t call you cringe. You said “I cringe,” and I said, “vote, even if you cringe.” I cringed when I voted for Biden. Both times. But he did better than I expected for 4 years, and Trump did worse than I thought for his 4 and beyond.
We have to keep supporting whatever power structures stand in the way of those who choose their worst instincts over everyone’s best interests. I have confidence Kamala will “ovary up” to do that.
Heads aren’t meant to be constantly tilted 90° so the nose sticks straight up.
Our tolerance, our attitudes, our desire to conform and not disrupt, the wish for better and the apathy to not strive for it. So many on the Left blame leaders they often failed to vote for. They blame decisions whose results they parrot and rarely fully understand. They try to be so different that even their opinions, who match with everyone else, become twisted in some way to stand out, striking false differences, and creating rifts and tension.
I suggest we all shut the hell up for a few months and work together. If YOU, dear reader, want YOUR change, you can get it. Be patient and hold your head, not your nose, high to fight for a better world. We can do this despite our differences in opinion because at the end of all these long days each of us wants a better life. That’s the real reason why we argue, because better is subjective to the person, and yet may objectively be better for all, despite the uncertainty.
I knew it was inevitable that she’d lean into her past as California’s top cop because of Trump’s convictions but it still makes me cringe. That history is reason she was performing so badly that she had to drop out before the Iowa caucus. 😬
Naw, this is where she shines. It’s not like attacks aren’t new; it’s not as if that isn’t all Trump does. But at least hers aren’t ad hominem attacks, and it’s something that has to be repeated, over and over, until America gets it: he’s a convicted felon, for chrissake, and the only reason he didn’t have more convictions is because his judges keep delaying and throwing out cases. He has a reputation for appointing crooked judges; it’s also fair to question the ethics of any judge he appointed.
Yes, he’s a felon and that is funny, but this law and order rhetoric was never going to excite the Democratic base to vote for her. It flopped in 2020 and it will flop again. Democrats don’t want to vote for a cop.
Hopefully it’s not the focus of the campaign and she focuses on the issues instead.
I think your’s is a valid take, but it’s one of her strengths and she has to play to it. The situation is also different this time: her base does think Trump is a crook who deserves to pay for his crimes, and he seems to be getting away with a lot of them.
In 2020, it was law and order, and assumed to be against The People. This time, she can focus her prosecutorial skills against an accepted villain. Sure, she won’t win points with Trump’s base, but nothing she can do will change that.
I think, this time, it’s a good strategy.
How did it flop in 2020?
Honest answer: her rhetoric in 2020 did not match her past. Most notably, when she decided to run, she suddenly started supporting marijuana legalization. Previously, as attorney general in California, she allowed prosecution of marijuana offenses (which many attorneys general in Blue states choose NOT to do). She voiced opposition to recreational legalization. This is where her being about “law and order” were shoved back in her face in 2020, as these drug offenses have always and still do target POC (not because of her, but because of racist police)
She’s said that her thoughts have “evolved”, but that never works for me. When we have so many people who have always been on the right side of history, why do we keep getting candidates who need to learn to be better
edit: obligatory vote for her! She’s leaps and bounds the superior candidate. Better than Biden, better than Hilary - best we’ve had in a while (that DNC is willing to support)
It just did. I wouldn’t even vote if I were you, fellow American.
Fellow American, I will be writing in Jon Stewart. It will send a message or something.
Edit: Fellow American, I can’t tell if someone’s sarcasm detector is faulty or if people who actually say shit like this are downvoting you for making fun of them.
Police brutality is a pretty big deal among Democrats, especially in 2020, and her history was a drag on her campaign. It’s part of why she dropped out earlier than everyone else.
It’s something that doesn’t play well in a primary because you’re trying to get the left side of the party.
Now in a general election it will draw centrists, as well as those who want Trump to properly account for his crimes. Those people on the far left who wouldn’t have chosen her over Bernie or whatever, they are so anti-Trump she can probably count on them to vote for her. There’s not a strong leftist third party candidate, either.
I hope you’ll be among them, even though you cringe.
In a general election it could also cause Democrats to stay home. You know that can happen, right? Harris needs to reassure Democrats that she won’t govern like a cop and appealing to mythical Independents at the cost of her base is a bad move.
I’m happy to vote for a chance at ending the genocide. I suspect she probably won’t but I’m willing to vote for a chance.
But if she gets deep into law and order shit then there are going to be people who see it and assume she’s basically just a moderate Republican, and they won’t care about taking that chance. Calling me cringe doesn’t change that.
Honey, I didn’t call you cringe. You said “I cringe,” and I said, “vote, even if you cringe.” I cringed when I voted for Biden. Both times. But he did better than I expected for 4 years, and Trump did worse than I thought for his 4 and beyond.
We have to keep supporting whatever power structures stand in the way of those who choose their worst instincts over everyone’s best interests. I have confidence Kamala will “ovary up” to do that.
Enough with decorum.
Stop being tolerant.
Heads aren’t meant to be constantly tilted 90° so the nose sticks straight up.
Our tolerance, our attitudes, our desire to conform and not disrupt, the wish for better and the apathy to not strive for it. So many on the Left blame leaders they often failed to vote for. They blame decisions whose results they parrot and rarely fully understand. They try to be so different that even their opinions, who match with everyone else, become twisted in some way to stand out, striking false differences, and creating rifts and tension.
I suggest we all shut the hell up for a few months and work together. If YOU, dear reader, want YOUR change, you can get it. Be patient and hold your head, not your nose, high to fight for a better world. We can do this despite our differences in opinion because at the end of all these long days each of us wants a better life. That’s the real reason why we argue, because better is subjective to the person, and yet may objectively be better for all, despite the uncertainty.
We can do this.