• Urist
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    8 months ago

    Total ban for civilians within population centres, where there is nothing to shoot save people, is totally normal everywhere except Burgerland.

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      8 months ago

      That is definitely not true. Even in Australia, which has some of the strictest gun laws, we don’t have a “total ban”. If you have a legitimate reason to have a firearm, you can get a license. And yes, legitimate reasons can include “guns are fun” - it just means that if that is your reason, the gun is only used at a gun club, and you can’t walk around the streets with it.

      Edit: reading your other posts, it seems you mean “carried in population centres”. Stored and/or used in controlled environments within population centres, and even open carried by appropriately licences individuals (eg police) is still a far cry from a “total ban”.

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        8 months ago

        The question was specific with regards to a “private city”, thus you can infer from context that the totality of “total” is limited to cities. This is also the reason I abstracted and specified it to mean population centres, because bringing guns to festivals is just as stupid and illegal most places.

        I get the urge to be pedantic, but why be so after someone else has already pointed it out and I have answered them?

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      8 months ago

      I wouldn’t go as far as saying a total van is totally normal everywhere else, because I don’t know many countries with such a ban. I don’t know many other countries with concealed or open carry laws, so that’s certainly a difference.

      Countries like Switzerland and Germany prove that private gun ownership can go hand in hand with regulation and enforcement, and not cause as many casualties as in the US.

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        8 months ago

        Sure, not total in the sense that gun ownership is illegal, but you if you take a fucking gun to a city you will have your license revoked and probably go to prison. That is unless the gun was kept locked down, dismantled and securely separate from the ammunition in your trunk.

        The point is to remove guns from people and places where they can do the most harm, like in a population centre. They have no reason to be there, and most of the world recognizes this.

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          8 months ago

          Ah, if that’s what you meant you’re absolutely right. I think there’s only one country in Europe where they have some (rather limited) form of carry by the public (Czech Republic if I’m not mistaken)

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          8 months ago

          This is a much more nuanced view than a “total ban” honytawk suggested. I completely agree this should be the norm.

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          8 months ago

          Yes, and as far as I know so do the UK (even air rifles are rather restricted there) and Singapore. There will undoubtedly be others, but I’d be surprised if that’s anywhere near a majority (if you consider strict gun laws to be the ones that make it very hard for people to legally own firearms).

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          8 months ago

          There’s definitely many sane countries that have “strict” gun control. But that’s very different to a “total ban”.