• Tangentism
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    I always find not travelling to regions known for sex tourism then being caught in a hotel room with 11 & 12 year old children really helps to maintain my reputation of not being a paedophile.

    But you do you.

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        Yes. Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law is a fundamental principle for good reason. For example, we don’t actually know if anything of what we’ve read about him is actually true.

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        How was this guy dealt with by internet vigilantes?

        He was arrested by the local authorities then bolted from the country once released on bail.

        It is not uncustomary for authorities to release names of those arrested.

        Do you want everywhere to change their processes so that your paedophile friends can remain in the shadows?

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          Then what would you call this:

          An image of his passport, including his data and photo, has been posted to social media after details of his case came to light.

          And yes, obviously everybody who thinks people have a right to due process must be a pedophile.

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              Some countries have laws against committing crimes abroad so they can still be charged at home for this reason, I’m not sure about the US though.

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            Which is especially indicative of their personal qualities in the light of the fact that if he really is a pedophile, proving it won’t be hard.

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          Sweet lord the Brazilian tourists are out in force on this thread.

          They found him in a hotel known for sex workers, in a district known for sex work, with an 11 and 12 year old girl.

          What was he doing, tutoring them?

          He fled the country to escape consequences and I think we’re all safer knowing his name and face.

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            I think you’re replying to the wrong person!

            The fact the guy was caught prior to abusing these kids, arrested and now has “his card marked” is great

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        Not really comparable between the media feeding frenzy surrounding the McCann disappearance and a US sex tourist being caught in a hotel with 2 children.

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          I just picked the first one when you google “media ruined life”

          It’s a matter of principle

          There’s hundreds of examples, pick your favorite

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            Again, not really comparable.

            He is not someone like the guy framed by all the Reddit imbecilic sluths after the Boston marathon bombings, nor is he like Christopher Jefferies, accused by the media of murdering one of his tenants, just because he’s a bit eccentric.

            The guy was caught in a hotel room with children in an area known for sex tourism & he chose to bolt the country after his arrest.

            It’s not like it’s an farcical comedy where a series of events transpired and his trousers fell down just as the police entered the room.

            If you don’t want your name released after being arrested in a hotel with local children entirely unrelated to you, then maybe don’t invite local children up to your hotel and be getting arrested.

            Like I said previously, I find it incredibly fucking easy not to be a child raping paedophile. It’s so easy that very little thought goes into it so I don’t have to deal with the consequences of even it being inferred despite no evidence of any crime having taken place.

            So much so that I have zero fucking empathy for anyone that is.

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              Not comparable

              It’s a matter of principle, pick any of hundreds of examples if you want a comparison

              Again, not comparable

              Some people

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                I’m not the one defending paedophiles.

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                  You are attacking civilized people who are trying to tell you that a lynching crowd is not the society.

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                    So where’s the lynching crowd aside from in all your imaginations?

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                    Y’know, it’s fucking crazy how an innocent Black man’ll get slabbed out by pigs and scores of hordes upon hordes of redditor crackers will all in unison “well, he must’ve done something to deserve it”, “he was no angel”, “he had a drug charge 15 years ago so that makes him free game to outright murder in the street” but as soon as it’s a cracker pedophile so much as getting their name publicized, y’all out here “pwease no lynch mob guise 😢😢😢😢”.

                    You peckerwoods sicken me.

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                    If I had to pick which person is exhibiting reddit-logo behavior in a discussion where one side is playing devil’s advocate for a dude who had 2 small children in his hotel room in an area known for kidnapping and child sex abuse, and another is saying the obvious despite not technically having strong evidence beyond the previously stated, my finger’s on the guy that doesn’t understand burden of proof.

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                    This comment gives me hope. I hate all the reddit kneejerk reactionaries. Sure, he may be a scumbag, but perhaps we should make sure beyond a reasonable doubt first.

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              Do you realize how certain one has to be to accuse a person of such a crime?

              Would you want to live in a world where 1 of 100 considered guilty is innocent?

              Would you feel the same way if you’d be that?

              Do you realize how probabilities work?

              If something has a 1 in a 1000 probability, then from time to time it happens.

              And then the final question - do you consider it too much of a bother to go through investigative process with civilized legal proceedings to confirm what is true and reduce the probability of a mistake?

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                “Blah blah blah I’m defending paedophiles”

                That’s what your wall of text is saying.

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                  My wall of text is saying that you want innocent people to be condemned, fighting against failsafe for that.

                  Thus you are a criminal and should hang.

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      A 3% probability of this being innocent would be too big to discard.

      People seem too comfortable with huge margins of error when judging others.