Hi,

thank you so much for this episode! I didn’t know about spectrum project. Sounds really cool!

Similarly, I used to be a QubesOS user, however all issues you mentioned made me to start working on “lightweight version” of it. I used LXD (LXC) containers instead of hardware virtualization.

For now I manage those “additional functionalities” by using upstream projects (for instance by calling LXC from cli). To made experience smooth I started writing automation tools like parallel base updater. (Both scripts and GUI tools).

I’m curious how does it behave on alpine as a hostOS, especially on mobile devices (with phosh and wayland).

(In theory it should not be a problem as LXD and rootfs bases are also aarch64)

I called it Panixticon. It’s in alpha but I managed to use it as a daily driver.

If you got interested just send me an email ;)

Than you for creating PostmarketOS!

Thanks for reply!

I was wondering because in the compatibility matrix it is marked as not-working.

However I saw the ucm commit with the following message:

The controls should somewhat better reflect the hardware, earpiece also works now! (…)

Another question - is the latest ucm for OP6 packaged? Or do I need to download it manually?

I ask, because I need to move out from my PinePhone daily driver to another pmOS device and I saw OP6 great performance on some video.

I wait for the OP6 to get call audio working and then I’ll buy one on the second-hand market and switch to it.

Do you think it’s ready? Or should I wait a little longer?

I daily drive postmarketOS and I know its upsides and downsides. And I’m also a developer.

You pointed out really important issue. What is the point of additional features if most important do not work?

I agree that there should be some priorities but the amount of time of people at the postmarketOS community are not unlimited.

This is not really pmOS fault. That is how life and community work. Unfortunately, there’s lack of interest from the manufactures that develops their devices or components like modems without documentation or against known standards.

This is understandable because they are making business, so this is obvious conflict of interests. They needs to be faster than the other competitors. And they don’t care how it is done but how fast it is done.

On the other hand, Pine64 and Pursim decided to collaborate with community, and their products has the best support as you can see on the wiki. (Hopefully guys from SHIFT may join?)

That was background.

The motivation of the pmOS creators are mentioned on their website, I won’t repeat them.

As I daily drive it since 1yr I can say that the begging was reeeealy hard, yes, making calls was problem for mobile phone, which was also funny for me. Also, there was huge problem with apps availability.

Nowadays, many effort has been put into making it stable and the goal was reached. Now I make calls without any obstacles. I replaced 100% android apps to Linux ones, I don’t even need to install waydroid (android emulator, that allows to run android apps on linux phone).

I see that the app development is really fast compared to Android that time. This is not sth. like - this app is made instead of the other that more people will benefit, because we don’t know priorities. Many things are just low level and is not mentioned so extensively no to bore end-users.

pmOS is not a company. Yes, there are goals, that are realized in the extent of members free time. But there are also independent people who want to spend their time on their needs but only Linux on mobile allow to do it. Nothing constrains them. They don’t care if somebody will use it. They publish their work for free for others to benefit. On android one would probably make it paid or put a lot of ads.

Android is stupidly constrained when it comes to apps. They are specific programming languages enforced for developers (Mostly Java and Kotlin with some constrained bindings mad in Golang or C++). This makes apps development process slower and sometimes impossible. On Linux you write in whatever language you want.