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Joining court would allow investigation of Xi Jinping if he were to order act of war against Taiwan
Taiwan’s government is considering joining the international criminal court, in part to increase deterrence of a Chinese attack or invasion.
Supporters also say it would help universalise the international legal system, which has a low presence in Asia, and increase Taiwan’s global participation at a time when Beijing works to keep it as isolated as possible.
The court was established by the Rome statute, which defined four core international crimes: genocide, crimes against humanity, war crimes and crimes of aggression. It has operated since 2002, prosecuting dozens of alleged war criminals. In March the ICC issued an arrest warrant for the Russian president, Vladimir Putin, over the forced deportation of children from Ukraine.
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It’s a small step.
A real deterrent could be a recognition of Taiwan as a country.
But it has a potential to trigger too many consequencies even Taiwan wouldn’t like at the moment.
Taiwan should join NATO
Doesn’t the USA support One China policy though?
Nah, not really. US supports Taiwan as a member of the First Island Chain of containment of the PRC. Any US acknowledgement of One China shouldn’t be construed as support.
Regardless of the US’s position, the timeline of admission of Taiwan into NATO is a NATO issue, not solely the US.
Thanks for the clarification. I am just so, so glad I am not in charge of diplomacy… So stressful!
NAPTO?
GTO?
Lol Taiwan is part of China and all NATO nations agree.
Of course, President Xi
All nato nations are bowing down to a dictator for the sake of trade. But taiwan is an independant country
That wouldn’t stop China in their tracks. The USA is also not a signee of the International Criminal Court. Reason? So they can police the world with no repercusions. So it’s enough if just the perpetrator is not in the organization.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Supporters also say it would help universalise the international legal system, which has a low presence in Asia, and increase Taiwan’s global participation at a time when Beijing works to keep it as isolated as possible.
Supporters have said this could help deter Xi from acting on his intention to annex Taiwan, a self-ruled democracy whose people overwhelmingly reject the prospect of Chinese subjugation.
Because of the warrant, Putin did not travel to the Brics conference in South Africa earlier this year as he faced the risk of arrest and deportation to The Hague if he landed in the ICC member state.
Prof Jonathan Hafetz, of Seton Hall law school in the US, said he did not think Taiwanese membership of the ICC would have a strong deterrent effect alone, but would probably introduce “another dimension to the larger geopolitical landscape that China would have to navigate”.
“I think China could try to undercut the legitimacy of any ICC action by underscoring the selective nature of international criminal justice and criticising it as a tool of western powers that is applied inconsistently,” Hafetz said.
With Taiwan heading to a presidential election on 13 January, imminent movement on the proposal is unlikely, but the Guardian understands there are high-level discussions taking place in government.
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This is the same ICC that the United States, Russia, China, and India are all not party to?
The same ICC that Vietnam, Malaysia, Indonesia, the Philippines, Singapore, Laos, Myanmar, and Brunei are all not party to?
I guess Taiwan can join the illustrious list of signatories in the East/Southeast Asia region: Cambodia, Thailand, South Korea, Japan, and Timor-Leste.
Yeah, would be better to have those countries be members. Still don’t you think it’s significant that all of Europe, South America and half of Africa are participants? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Criminal_Court
Meanwhile most of Southeast Asia and the Middle East are not. What, exactly, is your point?
Maybe read the article? It explicitly says why doing it in Asia would be beneficial.
By accepting the one country in the region without UN representation? Surely, that’ll benefit the legitimacy of the body.
The ICC is a joke. The reason the ICC has seen adoption in Europe, Australia, Japan, and South Korea is because, well, they’re America-allied countries and effectively immune from prosecution.
He made his point clear. He asked you if you think the members that are included are significant. Clearly you don’t, but you could just say so instead of replying with a passive aggressive question.
Imagine supporting not making it harder to get away with genocide because some other countries don’t.
Like of all the reasons peer pressure wasn’t what I would have expected.
There’s already a UN body to handle disputes between states: the International Court of Justice. The ICC’s primary role is to prosecute individuals, not states.
Well it says in italics right at top Joining court would allow investigation of Xi Jinping if he were to order act of war against Taiwan so prosecuting individuals is probably what they had in mind.
The ICC is a failure even within its jurisdiction, so I’m not sure what your point is.
What individuals can the ICC prosecute? It can’t prosecute any American or any American ally (most of Europe, Australia, Japan, South Korea, Canada, much of South America) without getting “liberated” by military action. Who’s a party to the ICC again?
The UN doesn’t recognize Tiawan’s statehood.
