I recently got it into my head to compare the various popular video codecs in an effort to better understand how av1 works and looks compared to x264 and x265. I also had ideas of using a intel video card to compress a home video security setup, and what levels of compression I would need to get good results.

The Setup
I used the 4k 6.3gb blender project, tears of steel as a source. I downscaled the video to 1080p using all three codecs, and then attempted to compare the results using various crf levels.

To compare results I used imgsli, FFMetrics, and my own picture viewer to try and see what the differences are.

The Results

crf av1 KB x265 KB x264 KB
18 419,261 632,079 685,217 – x246 visually lossless
21 352,337 390,358 – x265 visually lossless 411,439
24 301,517 – av1 VAMF visually lossless 250,426 263,524 – x264 good enough
27 245,685 165,079 – x265 good enough 176,919
30 205,008 110,062 122,458
33 168,192 73,528 86,899
36 139,379 – av1 My visually lossless 48,516 63,214
39 116,096 31,670 47,161
42 97,365 – av1 my good enough 20,636 35,801
45 81,805 13,598 27,484
48 69,044 9,726 20,823
51 58,316 8,586 – worst possible 16,120 – worst possible
54 48,681 - -
57 39,113 - -
60 29,062 - -
63 16,533 – worst possible - -

Here is av1 rcf 36 vs crf 24.

I go into more detail with the hows and whys of my choices, in my journal-style blog post, as well as how i came to these conclusions, But in essence, if you want to lose practically no visual information, crf24 through 36 for av1, crf 21 for x265, and crf 18 for x264 will do the job.

If you are low on space, using my ‘good enough’ choices will get you practically the same visual results while using less space, depending on the codec.

  • Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz
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    11 months ago

    You might want to use a code block instead of bullet points for your table, the way you presented it is unreadable but I found the info on your blog page.

    One of my criteria for video formats is the portability. Like sometimes I might watch something through a web browser which natively supports x264. Yeah x265 provides better compression, and AV1 certainly looks interesting, but they both require the addition of codecs on most of my viewing devices and in some cases that’s not possible.

    For most cases I’ve found that CRF25 with x264 works reasonably well. I tend to download 720p videos to watch on our 1080p TV and don’t notice the difference except in very minor situations like rapid motion on a solid-color background (usually only seen on movie studio logo screens). Any sort of animated shows can go even lower without noticeable degradation.

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      11 months ago

      I did try to format the table here better. I used code blocks the first time, and it ended up being even uglier. After about four edit attempts i kinda just gave up. Tables don’t seem to exist as far as I can tell either.

      Your experience with x264 just about matches up with mine. As long as I don’t pixel peep, crf 24 does a pretty great job of conveying the information. It also does a pretty great job of working with just about everything compatibility-wise. I don’t expect it to go away any time soon specifically because of that.

      AV1 is super neat in that we can buy hardware accelerated encoding for it for really cheap using the Intel Arc video cards, and can be decoded by their latest CPU generation. It makes for a great choice for something like security camera footage where playback compatibility is good enough (you can play it in a modern pc), hardware encoding works with a 200$ card, and you save a lot of money using the video card instead of buying extra storage space.

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        11 months ago
        Tables do exist !
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        11 months ago

        with a 200$ card, and you save a lot of money using the video card instead of buying extra storage space.

        With $200, you could buy ~12TB worth of HDD(s) instead. You’d need >36TB of video for that to make financial sense and you’d always lose quality.

        Additionally, you’d have to factor in the power it needs to transcode but, with HW accel, it’s not quite as much as with CPUs.

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          11 months ago

          Sure, but that is a choice that couldn’t be made without first checking how much space is saved by switching codecs. This helps with making that decision, but i’m well aware it is only part of the information needed.

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            11 months ago

            Oh the data is absolutely fine and helpful; I only take issue with the conclusion ;)